yeah and 99 percent of upper league managers can handle a softball gotcha question from reporters looking for a quote rather than getting thin skinned and cunty. it's not that ange doesn't know how to play the game with the press, he refuses to and the club suffers for it.
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Re : “ how did Ange’s it manifest itself “ .
It just might have manifested itself in doing something none of his TWENTY-SIX ( including repeats : caretakers ) predecessors managed in FORTY-ONE years.
So you think after those two spells, in your view (which seems fairly reasonable) he didn't want to deviate too much and kept to some sort of tactical consistency from Mourinho and Conte (like actual tactics, structure and cohesive plan), who are both vastly tactically superior to Ange.
But he would have ditched what he had learned in both those cases and chose to pick up Ange's chaos-ball, with manic random pressing and leaving holes everywhere (which he did finally pay some attention to in the last few games, fair do)?
Or would those tweaks you mention be actual attention to structure, balance, defensive cohesion and general cohesion throughout the 3 phases, which Ange, largely, neglected?
This thread has shot past 4000 posts within 24 months and is probably going to reach 5000 posts if he can stay employed by the club.
Love him or loathe him.
People love to talk about him.
Do you think that is a phenomenon only seen here or that the man just attracts attention? I’m very tempted to go look at SC……..
69k posts. I have no idea what that means on that site though. Seems a lot.
Love him or loathe him.
People love to talk about him.
Do you think that is a phenomenon only seen here or that the man just attracts attention? I’m very tempted to go look at SC……..
69k posts. I have no idea what that means on that site though. Seems a lot.
SAF was the biggest c-nt imaginable in press-conferences:
If he didn’t like what he was being asked he simply perma-banned certain journos and even newspapers from attending. Even the blessed BBC .
Never damaged the Mancs under his tenure; in fact it was seen as a sign of strength and indomitabilty.
Wish AP did more of it ; IF he’s given the chance.
Stop being such a pussy where the
“ gentlemen of the fourth estate “ are concerned ffs .
They’re paid to REPORT not dictate events . I can’t understand why you’re so much in awe of them , if I’m being honest.
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Glasner, who finished 11th in the 18 team Bundesliga, just 9 points from the drop, because he dedicated all the club's resources to a victorious Europa League campaign.
Frank, who in four PL seasons at Brentford without European football (nor any particularly deep domestic cup run) to draw away energies has never accumulated within 6 points or 4 league places as what Ange did with a similarly open slate in his first season here.
I keep getting reverse-polarized toward Ange by the weakness of the arguments of the people who think he's just a total fraud.
Let's not forget what Ange has had to deal with.
1. No Kane, for the first time at Spurs in 10 years
2. Whole back 5 out injured for several weeks, and CBs for months, twice.
3. Two transfer windows of only Solanke and Danso with any real experience - the rest were kids that he had to play because of injuries.
4. A cup final without Kulu, Maddison and Bergval.
5. Playing Timo Werner, because of injuries
6. Not inheriting a squad anywhere near as good as the one Poch had.
7. Son past his best and offering little for most of the season.
And he still won us our first European trophy since 1984 and our first trophy of any note in 17 years - many tried and failed. He's also wiped out all opportunities for those tired 'Spurs trophy cabinet' jokes, and many others.
The one blot on his copybook was finishing 17th. All things being considered, it's a small price to pay (means f'all now) for CL next season, and bringing in better players etc.
Maybe with a good transfer window, less injuries and more strength in depth, Ange just might pull off more than another 4-0 at the Etihad.
So, if Ange has to go, the guy coming in better be some amazing manager, because if he's not, it will just be another reset, before the next one.
1. No Kane, for the first time at Spurs in 10 years
2. Whole back 5 out injured for several weeks, and CBs for months, twice.
3. Two transfer windows of only Solanke and Danso with any real experience - the rest were kids that he had to play because of injuries.
4. A cup final without Kulu, Maddison and Bergval.
5. Playing Timo Werner, because of injuries
6. Not inheriting a squad anywhere near as good as the one Poch had.
7. Son past his best and offering little for most of the season.
And he still won us our first European trophy since 1984 and our first trophy of any note in 17 years - many tried and failed. He's also wiped out all opportunities for those tired 'Spurs trophy cabinet' jokes, and many others.
The one blot on his copybook was finishing 17th. All things being considered, it's a small price to pay (means f'all now) for CL next season, and bringing in better players etc.
Maybe with a good transfer window, less injuries and more strength in depth, Ange just might pull off more than another 4-0 at the Etihad.
So, if Ange has to go, the guy coming in better be some amazing manager, because if he's not, it will just be another reset, before the next one.
i disagree. i don't see any ideas in what ange puts on the pitch. it's either kamikaze forward or everyone back. there is no plan so therefore anyone could do it. i guess he gets credit for going back to the play-for-your-mum speech but that's about it.
what do you think that ange does well as a coach? what are the ideas and methods he instills in the players?
Probably. Your reading comprehension is somewhat lacking though.
I know..I failed everything in school..university, etc etc
And who else in the bottom half of the league did have Kane?
This is just a list of excuses.
Poor guy had to deal with not having the best striker in the world while playing once a week.
What do you mean "pick up"? HE'S BEEN ON ANGE'S STAFF THIS WHOLE TIME.
He's been out there at Hotspur Way drilling said chaos-ball into this squad day after day.
You have a deeply unsound heuristic for what an assistant coach is.
Call it "kamikaze forward" if you like, there is truth in that, but under the right circumstances it's terribly difficult to defend, even for the best teams.
And I think the players really understand what he wants from them, he's clear and consistent in what he expects them to do tactically and players like and respond to that.
Doing those things makes us often fatally vulnerable on the counterattack, might be more than the players can physically bear over the course of a season, and just did a 180 about-face to win a trophy so I don't know what it means going forward.
But I continue to be mystified by people who are so deeply committed to the notion that Ange is a fraudster with no method to his madness. It's literally just the same old possession-based stuff everyone is playing with a bit more aggressive press triggers and fullback positioning. It ain't that deep.
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Wow
Palace SPANKED us twice
Frank finished way above us in the PL and with the smallest budget in the division, a ground 1/4 our size, no fans, no history….
Mate you’re off the chart delusional
This was the logical extension of what you said about him not deviating too far from maurinho and conte when he took over. for short spells
In no way did Mason or Wells devise our tactical approach, set-up, dynamics, general organisation (or lack thereof) or anything else to do with our game or the way we played.
Ego Ange told them exactly what he wanted and they did what he instructed, because it's HIS system.
"You have a deeply unsound heuristic for what an assistant coach is."
The irony is bonkers.
The rest of the apologia is simply warped.
Your case is weak and your defence full of holes.
Fitting, really.
But this wasn't true for Jose and Conte?
You are football illiterate
Fucking what lmao? Shall we compare the budget available to Frank to the budget available to Ange?
Frank took up a championship team. Ange took over a team that only two seasons before he arrived had been top 4.
And I don’t even want Frank. We could also compare Frankfurts wage budget when they won it? I can do this all day.