no it requires scoring 3-4 goals per match in the prem which historically isn't really a thing
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Fa cup has big history and you could say is harder to win. Who did palace have to beat to get there compared to who we played in Europa.
I didn't mean it that he couldn't defend, but rather than he didn't have it in him to park the bus like Jose would, or like we did on weds to get the result
The only team I've ever seen for which that philosophy worked were the Brazilians in the 1970 WC...what a summer that was...!
Really? Are you high?
He did, once...against Arse in 2014
Stank the place out, Chadli scored and then they equalised
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honestly it was the first thing that gave me pause even during that first 10 match run. i couldn't seem to figure out how we or anyone was going to score enough in this league to make it work long term.
not saying its not harder to win, especially the current version of the europa league. not saying it doesnt have big history either, of course it does. but the europa league is the more prestigious football trophy. the EUFA cup has had the worlds best players from other countries competing for it, along with the heavyweight clubs of europe.
you have to win the FA cup to even enter the europa league....that tells you all you need to know on their order of prestigiousness.
How often does it need to be proven that experience and success as a player is totally meaningless in coaching?
Ryan Mason has no accomplishments whatsoever to his name as a coach. I like Ryan Mason! He should leave the nest and go start building those accomplishments!
I also agree with the notion that the Premier League is a different and more technically and physically proficient level of play than anywhere Ange has been. That's true.
But the disrespect of Ange's accomplishments that people tack onto that are pathetic and wrong. His resume is remarkable and just got even more remarkable this week. He's forgotten more about football than Mason has yet known in his young life. Get real.
Is anyone actually going to be that upset if Ange gets the sack?
Didn't the matchgoing fans hate him a week ago?
I think we all deeply appreciate what he's done for the club by winning that trophy, and sacking him would certainly heap pressure on Levy to show big ambition to kick on, but is anybody going to be outraged for poor old Ange?
That's not what I'm hearing in this thread, but maybe others disagree, I dunno.
It's utterly naive. Laughably so, its been exposed as such by other EPL coaches for 18 months, and yet he naively thinks magically they will go back to not being able to cope with it.
Totally disagree...Ange has no clue...he fluked the EL and almost got us relegated ...Mason was a 1st class player who actually knows something about the game and the EPL and is not a total bullshitter like AP....I'm not saying he should be manager. I'm just saying it's Mason who's forgotten more about football that Ange has ever known in his longer life..
There..I said it...
Brazil 82 even by then other coaches worked out it was too open.
Worked spectacularly in 70 though..for football enjoyment that is in the top ten memories for me...
You're chatting shit, you don't like Ange but to say that Mason knows more about football than him is just pure and utter buillshit and you know it.
The extremes in this thread are generally hilarious, people doing way too much to get their point across - Admin should just lock all the Ange threads for the lols, at least we can all touch grass.
dude his cv is literally in the backwoods. i'm sorry, i'm not trying to be a snob or elitist but it's miles apart. it's not just about the prem and it's higher physicality. the academies and pyramids and the fa's and the entrenchment of the game in england, europe and south america is just on another level. and i completely disagree about former players making good managers. all the best coaches played in the best leagues. where are these top level managers from outside europe and south america? overwhelmingly the best managers played at a high level even if they weren't stars or world class talents. they were a part of football at the highest levels for their entire lives and that matters.
ange is a great story. it's truly amazing what he's achieved but his limitations are of his own making. a little humility would've served him well on the way up too rather than this obstinate stance that his way is the only way to play. it's sad, really.
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There are so many coaches for whom that's not true.
Whether it be the Jurgen Klopp-type story of a longtime decent professional in the lower divisions whose real talent emerged in coaching, or the Julian Nagelsmann-type story of a promising young player whose career got taken away by injury, or the Maurizio Sarri-type story of someone never involved in the professional game emerging late in life up through the semi-pro divisions as a coach.
Also how does Ange being coached by Ferenc Puskas play into this?
Yeah, i thought initially noone will care. But then i heard the chants at the stadium during Brighton match. And read some posts here. And felt that mood has changed.
Luckilly season is over. So we have some time before next match to make this change.