lol all those people you listed are european which was my entire point. lower divisions in germany are at a higher level than austrailia. puskas is again, european and it's ange's exposure to him that got his foot in the door. where are the austrailians or americans or asians coaching at the highest levels? ange is the top of that heap and he just lost 22 league matches getting torn apart week after week. he's aussie ted lasso and maybe we should just get a believe sign to tape above the door. football is life mate!
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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its a shame we didnt have another 3-4 league games after the final. he would of been done for sure then.
I just really strongly disagree with the notion that ones experiences as a player are relevant to their quality as a manager. It isn't true.
Coaching is an entirely different discipline, and understanding the game as a coach is an entirely different thing than understanding it as a player. It gets proven over and over and over again.
Ange also developed as a coach in low-level backwaters, so some part of your point still stands, but the "good head for the game as a player = good manager" thing is nonsense.
Would it even matter? It's all about emotion now, nobody even talks about the decision in football terms. It's a three year sentence, no parole.
nonsense? lol. just to use your two examples, klopp and nagelsman played in professional academies in germany since they were children and were deeply embedded in the football culture of a football mad country with history and infrastructure that makes austrailia look like a gym class. and you're also conveniently ignoring all the great coaches who were also great players. i'm not saying messi or neymar are going to be great managers but there's a reason there aren't any coaching greats from the backwaters. it's just a fact
i think another 3 defeats after the final would have sealed his fate much easier for levy.
There are mutiple reasons. Opportunities handed to the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney and going back our own Ossie are simply not going to happen to managers from that side of the world.
Its also a fact that one of them form the backwaters won the second biggest European Club trophy.
Oh also Ange out.
I actually really like Levy and appreciate all he’s done for the club. It matters to me that we aren’t owned by an american dividend rinser or a fucking country. It matters that we didn’t do a Leeds and spend prudently too. I also like the pop concerts and NFL games.
Interesting question. I think its shaped his philosophy completely. Postecogolou rates European football above all club competitions. He favours high scoring front-foot football ( 99.9% of the time haha). Playing with flair. These are all things that Puskas would have exposed him too. His father wouls have seen and like my father talks about the Mighty Magyars and the Real Madrid of that era (to this day). It would have been a dream as young manager to have Puskas wax lyrical about his experiences.
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I agree. I also think coaches at the highest level can relate to and get respect from their players because they’ve done it before themselves.
Nuff said!!
I said "for the first time at Spurs in 10 years", so I clearly meant the first season when Ange finished 5th.
Well Ange has thrown 38 leagues tbh I’d say that was more banter. Losing to Leicester at home is prbly the worst of Ange’s tenure.
If that stupid Sissoko thing hadn’t happened we may have gone on to nick it. Thinking about what may have happened had we still had Dembele to play instead is wild to ponder.
10m fee vs club legend playing in a Cl final? I advocated trying to get a fee while we could. In hindsight I see it was wrong to sell him before the summer.
needing extra time to beat a non league side in a competitive game tops losing to a premier league side. that tamworth game is the single biggest stain of 90 mins on the club.
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So that’s what ‘down under’ means….thought it meant from Australia.
Nah, sorry, that's bullshit.