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Management Ange Postecoglou

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As evidenced by what Redknapp did with basically the same group of players in the 8 games after he left. "new manager bounce" aside, which IMO only works when the previous squad have stopped playing for the coach (as opposed to a squad ability concern)
History did not really vindicate Ramos.

A long managerial career with a lot of different stops and really only a golden couple of seasons with Sevilla (who won five more UEFA Cups after him) were anything special.
 
Chatting to neutral fans at work today, the general consensus is that it would be crazy to sack the manager who finally delivered a trophy and European football next season, I'm of the same thinking however the league form does worry me so I can see the other side other side of the argument, the thing that worries me more though is if We sack Ange now, firstly I have no faith in Levy getting the next appointment right and if your the new guy in the job then straight away your fucking off the cups to concentrate on top 4/5.
Its a really tough decision to make for Levy and I think as a fan base we are split, so whatever he chooses will piss people of!
 
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Everyone asking for clarity from the club may be in for a long wait. It’s very possible the decision has been made and they won’t announce it.

Do we usually announce that a manager will be in charge again next season?

Maybe the decision has been made to keep him. If that’s the case, you’ll hear nothing official from the club.
Usually the club doesn't put up relegation form in the league from start to finish. I think the club really does need to put out a statement either way in this specific instance because it will be massively detrimental to our upcoming campaign for there to be rumours over whether we are still looking for a new manager or not. With every fibre of my being I want the man out of the club but I would still massively rather we get a statement before the start of June that definitively states whether he will remain in charge next season or not, it will allow the fans to temper their expectations, whether we're going to take the season seriously or just wait for the news he's been sacked in Oct/Nov to start taking us seriously again.
 
Usually the club doesn't put up relegation form in the league from start to finish. I think the club really does need to put out a statement either way in this specific instance because it will be massively detrimental to our upcoming campaign for there to be rumours over whether we are still looking for a new manager or not. With every fibre of my being I want the man out of the club but I would still massively rather we get a statement before the start of June that definitively states whether he will remain in charge next season or not, it will allow the fans to temper their expectations, whether we're going to take the season seriously or just wait for the news he's been sacked in Oct/Nov to start taking us seriously again.

They won't and won't need to, if he carries on it's business as usual.
 
History did not really vindicate Ramos.

A long managerial career with a lot of different stops and really only a golden couple of seasons with Sevilla (who won five more UEFA Cups after him) were anything special.

Very few managers have left us for greater things, which might mean we get washed/crap managers, or that they never recover from us :levyeyes:


How many can we name? I'm totally, 110% NOT accepting Poch winning the John Deere Ligue 1 or the Fertilizer Cup in france as some evidence of success, but I'm looking at Redknapp, AVB, Jose.
I mean you could argue Conte has carried on as he was, but he does tend to have a rule that he'll only manage a club that will buy the league
 
They won't and won't need to, if he carries on it's business as usual.
Very naive take IMO, Utd got ahead of the rumours pretty early on with ETH by giving him a new contract, can't see us doing the same with Ange as he's still got 2 left to run and v unlikely to stay on past the next season whether he's sacked now or in October, but there will be a cacophony of noise in the media until it's definitively put to rest, not a lot else for them to focus in on this summer as no international comps and other clubs are fairly settled managerially.
 
Very naive take IMO, Utd got ahead of the rumours pretty early on with ETH by giving him a new contract, can't see us doing the same with Ange as he's still got 2 left to run and v unlikely to stay on past the next season whether he's sacked now or in October, but there will be a cacophony of noise in the media until it's definitively put to rest, not a lot else for them to focus in on this summer as no international comps and other clubs are fairly settled managerially.

Strange point to make unless you suggest we give Ange a new contract as a way to announce he's staying.

Furthermore I've never seen a club confirm that a manager is staying simply by putting out a statement saying he's staying, that's what the media are there for.
 
Strange point to make unless you suggest we give Ange a new contract as a way to announce he's staying.

Furthermore I've never seen a club confirm that a manager is staying simply by putting out a statement saying he's staying, that's what the media are there for.
Lol Ange himself has literally been priming Levy/Enic to make a statement with his "season 3" and "I'm not the man to ask about my future" bollocks. No, I don't think we should give him a new contract, I think we should announce his sacking, preferably by the end of this week. If we're not going to though something needs to be communicated unless we want to go the whole way through June reading ITK conjecture and puff pieces from the media on slow news days about potential replacements.
 
Spurs were without a major trophy for nearly 20 years and had become a running joke. Our talisman Son has gone his entire career without a trophy.

We had to sacrifice the league campaign in order to focus on the brining a trophy to Spurs - with 100% certainty.

NET RESULT

1 Major Trophy.
A UNITED Squad, who have now tasted success. These players will give 100% to do it again.
2 fingers stuck right up Woolwich's Arse.
Our best players want to stay (Romero/Porro).

Ask yourself this. Had we finished 4th or 5th - would any of the above statements be true?

I wonder how many double and treble winners sacrificed their league position to win Trophies since the PL was formed?

This piece of fiction only came to light, from Ange and no one else at the club.

So tell me this, we will be in the CL next season, so according to your theory, we will hover around fifteenth, sixteenth or seventeenth and you will welcome another twenty odd PL losses?

Winning a Trophy is all well and good, but like it or not we were fucking terrible when playing in the PL and this form hit us last year long before we were out of the group stages of the EL.

Averaging around one point per game isn't a "sacrifice" it's the ineptitude of the manager, and this won't change next season.
 
This isn't out of the blue. It's been on the cards all of 2025. I'll relent on an argument that DL didn't fancy his winter options and wanted to see the managerial market in the summer. But the longer this is left, the less time we have to plan and prepare for next season.

Before you know it, deadline day will be here and we've panicked into buying Chris Wood from Nott'm Forest for £70m.
 
It’s the signing of players I worry about with Ange. I’m sure he wants Tel to stay and I reckon we will do like we did with turbo. Next week or so it will be announced. Instead of spending the money on the Brentford lads like wide or mbuoe or even eze who Ange didn’t wa t last summer.

If he wants to keep Tel, that just shows the ability of the idiot to judge a player.

Another load of money down the shitter.
 

If he stays, this guy will take the victory lap.

If the opposite happens and they let him go... This will be the tweet will happen almost verbatim.

"Late text last night informing me that the club have changed their mind. They were tempted to carry on with Ange but a last minute change of heart......" blah blah blah

Twitter "ITK's".. Utter chancers. To a man.
 
That’s because they haven’t watched a season and a half of absolute shite. If it was their own club they’d feel differently like most of our sane fans do.
Like I said in my previous post, I can see both sides - just being 17th doesn't tell the whole story, we have been absolute garbage but he has also done something that Poch, Jose & Conte failed to do and that is actually win us a trophy.
 
I’m sure they are talking to other managers right now, if the right candidate wants to come then no doubt Ange will be gone. Levy is just waiting for the euphoria to wear off.

That defeat to Brighton on Sunday probably helped focus a lot of minds. The players were hungover and didn’t give a toss but the performance still looked the same as our usual shit displays. It’s quite damning for Ange that there wasn’t any difference between the team performance after being on the booze for 3 days straight and say, the performance at home to Leicester.

I can't see that Venkatesham will be doing handstands and summersaults over keeping the Aussie Fraud.

He will have a big say in this decision, if not the deciding one.
 
Like I said in my previous post, I can see both sides - just being 17th doesn't tell the whole story, we have been absolute garbage but he has also done something that Poch, Jose & Conte failed to do and that is actually win us a trophy.
And for that what he recieves is tremendous gratitude and a fond place in our history..

However, the position of manager of Tottenham Hotspur is not a little gift that you "deserve" or get to keep because you've earned it,,

It is a position you hold based solely on the criteria that there is a belief within the club that you are the best person to take the team forward.

We know that the club don't think that.. Because if that 90 minutes of football didn't go our way, then he'd have been sacked before getting on the flight back..

The manager himself said in a press conference a month or so ago, that one game of football won't make him a good or a bad manager.. I happen to agree with him.
 
Lol Ange himself has literally been priming Levy/Enic to make a statement with his "season 3" and "I'm not the man to ask about my future" bollocks. No, I don't think we should give him a new contract, I think we should announce his sacking, preferably by the end of this week. If we're not going to though something needs to be communicated unless we want to go the whole way through June reading ITK conjecture and puff pieces from the media on slow news days about potential replacements.

Sorry but you're not that important, I know fans think they are but a statement saying that we're keeping him is just unrealistic, you probably need to set your expectations on this.

If he stays it will come out in the media and guess what you'll know we're keeping him or not because he'll be the man in the seat in preseason, that's kinda how things work.
 
Very few managers have left us for greater things, which might mean we get washed/crap managers, or that they never recover from us :levyeyes:


How many can we name? I'm totally, 110% NOT accepting Poch winning the John Deere Ligue 1 or the Fertilizer Cup in france as some evidence of success, but I'm looking at Redknapp, AVB, Jose.
I mean you could argue Conte has carried on as he was, but he does tend to have a rule that he'll only manage a club that will buy the league
I mean Redknapp was 65 years old when he left Spurs. And Poch showed his quality while he was here.

One stick you cannot beat Levy with is a failure to attract top managers to the club, he's hired several terrific ones.

But he's never pursued a manager as passionately as he did Ramos, and with the full benefit of hindsight, there just really wasn't anything there.
 
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