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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I get a new phone every year. I like new stuff.
Not obsolete shite.
I do wish we had some clarity. Winning the Europa was a thrilling, unexpected, bonus after, what has been, a disastrous league campaign.
If Ange stays, can he turn our league form around? I'm fucked if I know.
If he goes, is there any guarantee that a new manager will do any better? I'm fucked if I know.
We won nothing under a parade of, commonly viewed as, 'elite' managers and won a major European trophy under a, commonly viewed on this forum as, clueless fraud. Does any of that give any sense of what might happen if Ange stays, or goes? I'm fucked if I know.
If Ange stays, he will have my support because I have supported this club for nearly 65 years through thick and thin, and always will.
If he goes, I will support the new Manager to do well because I have supported this club for nearly 65 years through thick and thin, and always will.
In short, what will happen? I'm fucked if I know.
If Ange stays, can he turn our league form around? I'm fucked if I know.
If he goes, is there any guarantee that a new manager will do any better? I'm fucked if I know.
We won nothing under a parade of, commonly viewed as, 'elite' managers and won a major European trophy under a, commonly viewed on this forum as, clueless fraud. Does any of that give any sense of what might happen if Ange stays, or goes? I'm fucked if I know.
If Ange stays, he will have my support because I have supported this club for nearly 65 years through thick and thin, and always will.
If he goes, I will support the new Manager to do well because I have supported this club for nearly 65 years through thick and thin, and always will.
In short, what will happen? I'm fucked if I know.
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Your analogies are horrible, please stop trying to do them, they just don't work
Once again 'heavily influenced' is an utter BS argument unless you're willing to use the same logic for every manager in the league who goes through a rich vein of form.
It's very easy to point out and ignore certain factors as to why to why certain teams hit/lose form throughout the season e.g injuries, players hitting form, referees, fixture schedule etc... you could literally do this for every other team in the league hence why we take an overall approach when it's all said and done you end up where you deserve at the end of the season.
Ah yes trolling.
Just because your simple brain is unable to grasp the concept that someone may disagree with someone else and you...but yes trolling okay I'll let you have fun with that
SC is a site full of brain dead numpties who believe and pay for ITK bullshit so we can ignore their thoughts.
It’s bad enough we get their forum wankstains on here trolling we can only imagine the nonsense the rest of those muppets are spouting.
I'm sorry who has done this and what context do you need to fucking apply to a 5th place finish ffs...stop trying to argue with facts, you're being thick.
You’d have a point if the rich vein of form was anything other than right at the start of his tenure. AngeBall was a new concept to the premier league and it initially caught teams out, but it turned out to be surprisingly easy to overcome.
I think it was Gary O’Neil who gave a detailed interview on the tactics that were used to nullify AngeBall and it’s a blueprint that every manager has used since.
Except Amorim.
Who is Gary O'Neil? Has he ever won anything?
That he had to finish 17th with 22 losses in order to beat Bodo fucking Glimpt.
It’s pretty self explanatory (to someone moderately intelligent) what I’m claiming and it’s that the fifth place finish in 23/24 is not indicative of Ange’s ability as Harry7 keeps trotting out. What’s difficult to understand with that?!
Last season’s 17th place finish inidicates that, so ‘stop trying to argue with facts, you’re being thick!’
Sorry what difference does it make when teams hit form?
The narrative that he got 'found out' after those first 10 matches is a load of crap. What happened is that our key players who were performing at a high level (Maddison/VDV) got injured for 3 months, Romero got suspended, Udogie/Rich, Perisic were hurt and subsequently we dropped points, we didn't start drop points due to tactics, we started to drop points due to being considerably weakened.
If he got 'found out' after the first 10 then we wouldn't have won half our matches from round 10 to round 20, we lost form because we lost key players and struggled to recover.
Now before you say anything our key players came back towards the end of the season and we were poor which was completely on the manager however anyone who suggests that the manager got found out ignoring the context of key personnel going missing during that period either have a shit memory or just lying to themselves because it doesn't fit their confirmation bias about the manager.
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It’s pretty self explanatory (to someone moderately intelligent) what I’m claiming and it’s that the fifth place finish in 23/24 is not indicative of Ange’s ability as Harry7 keeps trotting out. What’s difficult to understand with that?!
Last season’s 17th place finish inidicates that, so ‘stop trying to argue with facts, you’re being thick!’
Fine and that 5th place should not be taken in isolation because you can't ignore what happened this season.
If anything what you're saying that over the course of 2 seasons going by the mean Ange is a mid table manager, if you're happy to swap him with another mid table manager who haven't managed to win silverware then okay then sure...
What I'm debating is people trying to discount the first 10 and using all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify their bogus arguments.
Sir, I salute your indefatigability but you may as well be trying to argue with a brick wall.It’s pretty self explanatory (to someone moderately intelligent) what I’m claiming and it’s that the fifth place finish in 23/24 is not indicative of Ange’s ability as Harry7 keeps trotting out. What’s difficult to understand with that?!
Last season’s 17th place finish inidicates that, so ‘stop trying to argue with facts, you’re being thick!’
The all conquering jobless Gary O'Neill who apparently managed to tell the world about Ange's tactics where Arteta, Klopp and the flavour of the month Iarola failed, of course.
A top manager finds solutions when injuries occur. Ange can't do that as he's not a good manager. He only has one way and either it works or it don't. In the premier league it doesn't work. And a system only working for 10 games is a shitty system.
Now it only works against weak teams in Europa league. Even low league teams nearly but us this year. Zara cashiers were destroying Ange ball. At that point you should've realized.
Do you reckon you'll realise that at some point nobody listens to you when you constantly repeat this.
But have fun being the forum fire marshall
You like ‘facts’, so there really is no need for ‘confirmation bias’ with the stats and the ‘records’ Ange has laid down this season!
