52 for me. Sounds about right.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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And a rule they decided was absolute stupidity about 24 hours later.
Spursy.
I agree it was the only rational decision to be made, and I don't credit Ange with some sort of rocket science in making it.
And hey, we got a bit lucky with the draw. I have a hard time seeing us beating Lazio and Athletic Bilbao in their home stadium.
But then again, Bodo/Glimt's home record in Europe is insane, and we went up there and did the business. And I couldn't imagine us beating Frankfurt at the time either and we did.
We dared and we did. It's on the wall, mate.
...well it took them about 12 YEARS to bring in Goal Line technology after Pedro Mendes' goal at OT...
THAT game shoulda ended 1-0 to Spurs...might have even got us CL Football that year...
THIS one did!
I'll take that!
The General has to be No 2, he lead us to three trophies. And where is Arthur Rowe???I asked ChatGPT a couple of questions.
Ange is the 7th best Spurs manager when ranked as a top 20.
And in a WWE style Royal rumble these would be the final 4.
Winner: Bill Nicholson
- Why? A true Tottenham legend, Bill Nicholson combined tactical brilliance with steely resolve. He’s got that gritty 1960s British toughness, and after all those trophies, he’d be determined to prove himself the best.
- Bill Nicholson
- Harry Redknapp
- Keith Burkinshaw
- Mauricio Pochettino (he’d be the underdog, athletic and determined, but ultimately overshadowed by the older, more experienced “veterans.”)
This is where technology has led us.
Well led me.
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I agree. It's on the wall and that's it.
Winning that match doesn't change who he is, which is someone who is completely out of his depth in the PL.
So many people are letting that toddler fight in the Final cloud their judgement, which before the final was 95% Ange out among the fans who live outside padded rooms, and for good reason, based on 100 matches and not just one
You seem to forget that we didn't have a 10. But it's ok, most people (especially here) do.
Of course I'm biased.Greek, you say? No bias here then…
But isn't the majority here?
I asked ChatGPT a couple of questions.
Ange is the 7th best Spurs manager when ranked as a top 20.
And in a WWE style Royal rumble these would be the final 4.
Winner: Bill Nicholson
- Why? A true Tottenham legend, Bill Nicholson combined tactical brilliance with steely resolve. He’s got that gritty 1960s British toughness, and after all those trophies, he’d be determined to prove himself the best.
- Bill Nicholson
- Harry Redknapp
- Keith Burkinshaw
- Mauricio Pochettino (he’d be the underdog, athletic and determined, but ultimately overshadowed by the older, more experienced “veterans.”)
This is where technology has led us.
Well led me.
I had to literally tell Gemini what the results were of our first 10 games of this season because it kept insisting we beat Newcastle, Brighton, and Palace.
Gemini:
Me:
Gemini:
etc. In the end I had to tell it the points. Problem with these LLMs is that they learn from people on the internet, and about 5 mins into using X/Twitter or Reddit confirms that most people are defiantly wrong and abusive, so I'm kind of not surprised "AI" can't count, but kind of surprised it didn't tell me to go fuck myself and that I'm a dumb c***, as that's probably what I'd get if I pointed out any of this stuff on either medium.
I guess here's my question for this perspective.
I believe Ange bears some, perhaps a lot, of responsibility for our rolling injury crises, and that alone may be a sackable offense. But leave that to one side for the sake of argument.
Assume a different manager, Frank, Glasner, whoever, has the exact same player availability as Ange this season, both with injury, general fitness and fatigue levels, PLUS the SAME focus on rotation to prioritize for the cups. So like Ange they are hell bent for leather to win a trophy, position on the table be damned.
They have the same bodies and same focus game-by-game as Ange did.
How many points do they have over 38 games?
If Ange bears some responsibility for the injury crisis, does he also get credit for not risking injury to VDV and Romero during the LC and FA Cup knockouts, then keeping both fit for the entire EL run?
No arguing against the hypothetical, answer the question!
I've consulted my local spirit guide and have been told without a shadow of a doubt, Ange is not going to get the sack. The ITK they had is that it's his PL form that's kept him in the job... 
No arguing against the hypothetical, answer the question!
Impossible to know how many points they would have got.
The answer is probably more because Ange was crazy enough not to sack off either of the cups or the EL when the injury crisis hit. He rotated pretty heavily in the EL before the injury crisis but after it, he was playing his best lineups in Europe. Ange's biggest mistake IMO was taking the LC seriously. More likely a Frank type would have sacked off the EL in favour of preserving what player resources he had for the league.
Glasner had a pretty shocking league season the year that Frankfurt won the EL and I think went out of the German Cup comps really early, so maybe he'd have had a pretty similar league season if he'd stayed in all comps and played that many games in an injury crisis. He's not one to rotate his squad at all really.
What were we supposed to do ? Maddison Kulu and Bergval injured son clearly not fit/past his best
Not sure going into a 2nd leg FA Cup semi-final with a 1-0 lead, only to get tonked 4-0 by playing daft tactics is something to be credited for, tbh.
Far better managers in the PL would have shithoused that 2nd leg
It really does beg the question of why we couldn't have played that game the way we did against United.
And like, the back 5 was Kinsky, Spence, Davies, Danso on his club debut, Gray, I get why parking the bus and inviting them onto us was an unappealing option, but it still bears explanation.
Like he shithoused the EL Final?
Tbh VVD should have been sent off when that second leg was still 0-0, he elbowed Richarlison who was up to shithousing to start the game.
But the state of the squad and the number of games the few players we had left meant most games were pointless by that stage of the season.
If we weren't so trophy starved, he'd have played a lineup of academy kids and fucked it off much earlier, probably the United QF even.
Exactly. We have a fond history of winning the FA Cup, so it is inexcusable to capitulate so softly.
Probably would have won it by going for the classic Jose park the bus and hit them on the break when they're overloading