I'm sincerely torn on the Ange question.
The low quality of argumentation against him continues to make me feel like keeping him must be the right answer though.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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The low quality of argumentation against him continues to make me feel like keeping him must be the right answer though.
so you're not a spurs fan, youre some weirdo whos joy from life comes from reality being shaped in a way that will piss people off that you don't even know on a forum.... need to get a life, son.
Well I expect Inzaghi will be sacked quite soon so no compensation due. Gotta say the Inter coaches are very well dressed, Italian flair.
22 defeats in 1 season should be all the evidence required to be honest. Even worse that it's his 2nd season IMO. Trending down, relegation next year?
I think the argument can be summed up by a phrase we heard all season long-Spurs are easy to play against.
Enfin la verite
I also have noticed the extremely low quality of argumentation against him.
It basically consists of calling those who t
BTW, who knew argumentation was a real word?
Lol.
The low quality of argumentation? You guys are quality. Really and truly.
We finished on 38 points. In other years this has you locked in a tight relegation fight. We were the worst not promoted premier league team.
Prior to this season, we had an awful finish to the last in which we lost nearly every game. We haven’t played consistent quality football since the first time Ange got here. This is a team heading nowhere, looking almost entirely un coached.
We won a cup. A cup where we played a horrendous United team who are right next to us as a terrible side. Both of us got to a European final based on a talent advantage over middle tier sides in Europe.
None of what we did to win the cup was Ange’s football. It was just win at all costs stuff. Which is fine but not feasible across higher quality competitions as good opposition who are actually coached put us down.
The EL final was two teams who looked badly coached & one side got the break. It was some of the lowest quality dirge you will ever see.
A year and a half of terrible performances in all competitions apart from the distinctly weaker Europa league and you’re sat here talking about weak arguments.
The argument to keep Ange is literally just ‘he won something’. That’s it. And it falls so flat when you expose it to context.
The guys exposed at the elite level.
The timing of it and his post Europa win comments that he decided to make winning the Europa the sole priority and that others at the club did not agree would suggest that's what it was.
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The elite level is not just about being competitive but going in with the intent of winning the league and/or the Champions League. Levy aims for top 4 to get in the Champions League because that's his spending ceiling. He doesn't care enough to invest to win those trophies- but the fans clearly do want to win to trophies, and so does Postecoglou
Whoever replaces Postecoglou will have to accept that reality, and they in a sense will also be exposed at the elite level and we'll have to remain content with that.
Exactly, fair weather supporters, not the type to watch your back that's for sure!
This club never seem to stick with the manager it hires, not honoring the contract they appear to sign in good faith.
And some go along with their flawed decision making! Its no wonder they cannot attract anyone who has been around this level for a while. I cannot remember the last time I have heard the phrase "Levy Out" in this conversation.
I've wanted him out during the season, but if we sack him without at least giving him the first few games of next season, we'll be back to being the laughing stock we were before the EL win.
And if it doesn't work out ...Spurs will also be a laughing stock.
Either you stick to Angelos or not because brining in a new head-coach in the middle of the season is not a good idea (yes, I know, there are cases of it working out on the short run).
He won us a major trophy, that's more than those previously had done for a while.
The language before the final was not like this.
Unbelievable, some have been seduced by those that write for the mastheads who fucking hate us!
If he gets another year, back him, like the squad will, don't try and tear him down.
I think it's reasonable to conclude that managers who will adjust tactics to our player availability, to our available player's strengths and weaknesses, and to those of our opponents would collect quite a few more points in any given week. Over the course of two seasons through training, a competent man could have had us modestly organized in defense and not so awful on set pieces and those alone would have created significant points.
Where in the table this year could a manager like Glasner, Frank, Iraola etc have had us? Who can say, but I suppose we have to start with where their position in the table ended up being. They were working with a talent level not far off from ours during injury crisis, and some of those clubs had crises of their own. We could at least have been near where they themselves finished this year.
Who cares about being a laughing stock? We shouldn't play to the press or rival fans.. They'll always shit talk us.. There is only the right decision and the wrong decision for the future of the club. I don't know for sure what that is (I know what I think it is). But how it appears, or what is deemed to be good and proper behaviour should not be a flicker in the mind of those making the decision.
Celtic under Ange had the same issues with hamstring injuries' he admitted that here:
Ange Postecoglou admits his Celtic training demands can bring injuries
Kyogo Furuhashi and Albian Ajeti both limped off with injuries in the win over Real Betis.
We can't have enough player cover when we have eight or nine players out through injury.
However much the fraud is given to spend, he will just break them.
He has to go, the mans a liability to any player we sign.
Talk of Paratici deciding Ange's fate is far from the truth.
Venkatesha will make that decision, he's not been hired to decide on cheese rooms and the style of DJ's plaits.