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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Starting to feel like maybe only if Pep and Klopp had a lovechild would you be capable of digesting the idea that there might be someone out there who could do a better job than Ange. Stone me if a guy who's been to 2 CL finals in the last 3 years isn't an exciting prospect for our first CL campaign in over 6 years but an Australian fraud who gets you a point a game in the league as the price of cup success is our messiah I think we might well be completely fucked.

What’s this got to do with Ange?
 
“Everyone on here who disagrees with me is a gooner troll!”

99% of the forum wanted him gone pre final. It’s just that most people are intelligent enough to not have changed their mind based on one game against Manchester United.

You always wanted him here & have used that to justify it now so it’s not surprising. We should go ahead and replace him with Di Matteo, blokes won Europe’s BEST trophy so must be a better coach, right?!

Totally how football works.

Not everyone

Definitely you though

Fake policeman security guard mall cop gooner troll
 
Thomas Frank has turned Brentford into a permanent premier league fixture with a wage budget consistently in the bottom three.

Anyone using the argument that "but Ange beat him with Spurs so Ange is better" is brain-dead sorry. Ange should be beating Brentford comfortably every time given the absolute chasm in resources available to each manager.

Turning a mid table championship team with an average crowd of 10,000 into a midtable premier league team is no mean feat. Recognising that the football he played in the championship wouldn't work and adapting to the premier league and doing it well is a great sign. I guess we don't know exactly how he'd set us up at Spurs, because again he'd recognise that the quality of player available to him is better and he'd adapt again and none of this "it's just who we are mate" schtick which some people love but I think is just unearned arrogance.

I loved the trophy and it's something for the club to build on but I am getting fucking tired of 8 hour round journeys every other week to watch us get battered with no discernable sign of improvement or plan, and Frank is absolutely a step up on that and I'm certain.
If he doesn't get a move this summer to a club like us.. He may be starting to think "what more do I have to do?" Almost a victim of his own long term good performance.. The fact that Brentford being 10th now is just something we shrug at and expect, when really it's astounding. Thats whether you think he's the right appointment for us or not.
 
Right decision to remove Ange (assuming that’s what is happening)
Not sure Frank is best available choice however (assuming that’s the replacement)

And to be honest if decision was to remove Ange irrelevant of the Europa Cup (and I heard from 2 journos we got talking to in Bilbao that they had been briefed it was going to be his last game whatever the result), then it really begs the question why wasn’t he removed in say December last year when we might still have been able to have a reasonable league season as well as cups.
 
Frank leak seems like Donna Cullen vibes to gauge fan reaction

Mostly been bad online as well
Regardless of what anyone wants to happen.. No football club should be gauging fan opinions on any footballing decisions they make. Whether they be something that we like or not.. Christ.. Just trust that you have professionals making the decisions in the club that will be proven right in the end.
 
Regardless of what anyone wants to happen.. No football club should be gauging fan opinions on any footballing decisions they make. Whether they be something that we like or not.. Christ.. Just trust that you have professionals making the decisions in the club that will be proven right in the end.

We don’t have professionals making decisions at our football club.

We have cretins.

Every single member of our board has shown time and time again that they belong nowhere near football decisions
 
If the club has any wit they'll have a quick look at Man Utd and how they acted last summer and realise that once you've undermined the manager by speaking to candidates about the job in a way that's been allowed to be made public, you cannot go back and say, "ooh dear, we'll keep you then". It doesn't work and cannot work.. When you've decided he's not the man, he's done.
There is zero evidence that the club has spoken to any candidates about a managerial appointment
 
Having Frank - an eloquent, genuinely nice bloke who is super tactical and can vary his style brilliantly will be an absolute dream after having this guy.

His side played attractive, possession based stuff in the championship, and then mixed it up on a shoestring in the premier league and he's made them a fixture.

Go on then.

Look at the players he has produced that are being courted by other clubs.

He has built a club, culture, and coached players none of us had heard of to be successful and sought after.

We currently perhaps have three, Micky, Romero and Bergvall.
 
I see a lot of misconceptions about people who are Ange in or are undecided. Nobody is saying 17th in the league was good, just that they believe it won't be anywhere near 17th next season. And that even if it is not top 5 we will have another trophy. I mean Frank did well with a lower budget club, but the jump straight to Champions League is too undeserving, and too much to guarantee any silverware or CL football again. If Ange fails, Inzaghi makes more sense in terms of experience on the CV. Even Glasner at least has winning experience.
 
I loved the trophy and it's something for the club to build on but I am getting fucking tired of 8 hour round journeys every other week to watch us get battered with no discernable sign of improvement or plan, and Frank is absolutely a step up on that and I'm certain.
Not a big step up though is it. Not really an inspiring call for a supposed Big 6 club.
Let's be honest, if he was appointed by Everton or West Ham or Wolves nobody on here would be surprised.
We should be showing ambition levels above these kind of clubs.
 
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