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Management Ange Postecoglou

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By the way, all this talk about Frank. Knowing the way we operate, it will probably be a totally leftfield appointment nobody saw coming.

Is Frank top of my list? No. Iraola was, but I have cooled a bit on him with the way Bournemouth finished the season.

I would probably favour Iraola, however Frank has more than earned his chance and I don't see too many downsides to his appointment.

He could well go on and do an exceptional job for us. He is a great guy and the fans will love him.
 
I'm surprised more noise isn't being made about Terzic. Plays exactly the way people expect us to play and is available without having to negotiate with another club.
 
Imo our league position will swing the sack pendulum. The board will surely think we keep him we could go down next season or would have to change mid-season. Catastrophic imo. Were in the champions league so have to be serious. Do think as well new ceo and paratici back has an element of change needed. Munn will be out the door.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Don't really think it's terribly relevant that Brentford have a good data model, and accept that while it will be responsible for at least a modicum of Brentford's success at PL level, Frank's tactical acumen has been equally a vitally important factor. Look at Forest and Gary Cooper, clearly Marinakis had equipped that side with enough talent to stay up with his mad summer spending spree, but required the right fit of manager in Nuno to up the results to the required level. They 100% would have gone down in 22/23 if they had kept faith in Cooper. It wasn't the players he was equipped with, they were the same ones Nuno stayed up with. It was the manager and his tactical approach that kept them safe.
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You’d have said the very same thing about Potter as you are about Frank.

And I wouldn’t really be bringing up Nuno, because surely he’s a prime example of a bloke who couldn’t handle it in a bigger environment like THFC.
 
Crowny said:
You’d have said the very same thing about Potter as you are about Frank.

And I wouldn’t really be bringing up Nuno, because surely he’s a prime example of a bloke who couldn’t handle it in a bigger environment like THFC.
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Potter's football is fucking shite, so no, I wouldn't say that. In his last full season at Brighton they scored just 42 goals, conceding 44. They scored 40 the year before that.
Brentford have never scored so few in their 4 seasons so far in the PL, and on average in PL games keep around 47% possession. Comparing Frank to Potter is apples and oranges frankly.

I don't see what Nuno's time at Spurs has to do with him replacing Cooper and performing much better with the same squad, he had a proven track record with Wolves of performing well on limited resources and was an astute appointment for Forest.
 
Crowny said:
Not Ange in particularly but you do know that Brentford’s owner used to work with Brighton’s owner (until they fell out) . They both use the same data techniques - and both are clearly ahead of the game in it.

Potter was thriving at Brighton and now look at him. De Zerbi was thriving at Brighton but his future at Marseille after 1 season is precarious.

How will Frank fare at our shitshow? Hmmm…
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De Zerbi at Marseille actually did well results wise. Him being on the outs is more because he himself tried to leave during the fall when the Milan job became open.
 
oldwiltshireyid said:
Do they play in black and white stripes by any chance ?
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Their captain eats like a horse ….


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Dropping past then back to my hiatus until pre-season starts.

Reminder that there is nothing for football pundits to talk about right now.

So when one journalist makes up an article saying Ange is getting sacked and they’ve interviewed Thomas Frank, and spoken about transfer targets.

Guess what, it’s absolute made up dribble.

Put on your critical thinking hat, and ask, if that meeting ever happened, would they leak they spoke about transfer targets?
No they didn’t - but journalists want to talk transfer targets because it gets the most views.

Then the next journalist references that made up dribble as there source to talk about it a manager getting sacked.

Why? Because there is nothing else to talk about in world football right now of relevance.
And they need to keep pushing content out about something.
To get paid, they get paid for views, and there is bugger all to talk about in English football right now.


Ange is here to start next season, strap in, get behind him and the team.

The amount of people on here still playing down the significance of winning the Europa league is absolutely gobsmacking, miserable sods, probably complain about a Sunday roast as well because they reckon they’ve had a better one.
 
Ionman34 said:
I do like Frank, but my worry is that he feels a bit Nuno. Likeable bloke, calm and measured in the way he speaks, and can coach I side pretty well, but potentially unable to take the step up to the next level where consistency is key, that being a consistency in getting results whether you're playing well or not.

I'm not saying he can't do it, just that my concern is that he's an unknown in that respect. It's a massive leap from keeping a team up, to having one challenging for top honours domestically, which is essentially what we want.

Having said that, I put Eddie Howe forward as another comparison to Frank in a previous post. Howe is also comparable in terms of his calm demeanor and coaching ability, and he's doing very well ATM. Whether he can take that extra step to consistently getting results, regardless of whether they're playing well or not, still remains to be seen. However, I think we'd all take Howe in a heartbeat right now.

As we've seen for far too many years, every manager is a gamble, regardless of their pedigree. Hopefully, if we do gamble on Frank, or any other manager for that matter, we actually get what we all hope for.
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Agree with a lot of that.

I think, without a shred of evidence to support my assertion that the club will not want another situation where they turn to a variety of managers who turn us down thus leaving it as last man standing.

If the club were confident, as in agreement with Frank or whoever,then it becomes far easier to relieve Postecoglou.

We can't afford a merry go round, which is possibly the only thing that would be worse than retaining Postecoglou's services.
 
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