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Management Ange Postecoglou

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It doesn't make sense replacing him with Thomas Frank after we've just won the Europa. Parker? Silva? none of these managers have won anything. It sends a really bad message if we replace the manager that has won the club major silverware with managers who haven't won anything.

Xavi, Glasner, Emery and yes ok that's fine. We can still send the message that winning silverware is actually important but there's something really odd about replacing him with a manager that hasn't won anything right after we've won something. This is feeling like they're doing it to not follow through with Ange's demands of buying experience and they can stick to punts.

At last. Someone gets it. And explains it far better than I could

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Wether you're Ange in or not fella, this sounds like a soundbite from a stroppy, salty, bitter, angry Woolwich fan than a fan of the team that just won a major trophy tbh. I can imagine this sort of tirade being all over the gooner forums....🤷‍♂️
Haha, how is that a tirade?

It's a fairly accurate summation of the Final in response to a ridiculous "it'll never be this good again!" video from SM.

If you really think that the 90 minutes in Bilbao was peak footballing brilliance then fair play to you, I thought it was abject. Does that take away from my enjoyment of winning the Cup? No, 90% of the other games this season chipping away at my emotional attachment to the Club, filling me with apathy, and boring my enthusiasm out into an empty husk did that...
 
We all appreciate him winning the Europa but it’s because we aren’t used to silverware that some fans are going soft on him.

At any elite team, if you won a lesser trophy like the EL but finished 17th in the league, you’d be thanked politely and told to find a new club.
I agree to a certain extent, but how is the UEFA cup a 'lesser trophy' exactly?
What's bigger bar the league and champions league?? I've got news for you..we're not gonna win either of those in the near future!.....👍
 

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I can't help imagining Ange watching this with his jaw dropped, tongue slightly exposed and an expression on his face like he has the worst headache he has ever experienced!

alien language to him! his idea of being a good manager is getting the players to run hard for the love of their families and be ultra high up the pitch, with the added genius spark of having full backs acting as the most important playmakers on the pitch.....
 
Haha, how is that a tirade?

It's a fairly accurate summation of the Final in response to a ridiculous "it'll never be this good again!" video from SM.

If you really think that the 90 minutes in Bilbao was peak footballing brilliance then fair play to you, I thought it was abject. Does that take away from my enjoyment of winning the Cup? No, 90% of the other games this season chipping away at my emotional attachment to the Club, filling me with apathy, and boring my enthusiasm out into an empty husk did that...
Simply saying if you stuck your post on a neutral forum and ask which fan group that was from most would say it was from a gooner i would suspect....🤷‍♂️
 
We all appreciate him winning the Europa but it’s because we aren’t used to silverware that some fans are going soft on him.

At any elite team, if you won a lesser trophy like the EL but finished 17th in the league, you’d be thanked politely and told to find a new club.

I can't wait for a definitive decision,just to stop this debate.

Not that it will stop of course, because we will have many on here believing CL glory would have beckoned, along with a decade of silverware if Postecoglou were to be sacked,and look at what we have got now,we told you so.

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For me, any new manager who secures top 8, on top of getting us into the last 16 of the CL, and whatever else would be considered a good appointment. And that won't be easy by any stretch.

But it should (in my opinion) be the standard required or expected.
 
Simply saying if you stuck your post on a neutral forum and ask which fan group that was from most would say it was from a gooner i would suspect....🤷‍♂️
I'm not sure I agree, every other fan I've heard from (2, it's two people... Villa/Liverpool) were in total agreement that the game and the two sides involved were utterly abysmal, lots of Social Media posts made the same observation.

The way to tell it's an Woolwich fan is that they will also add in bitterness at us having won it on top.

I'm not bitter, I just don't see any point in trying to hide from the fact that it was dire stuff. Even Jose would find it difficult to muster a semi for it.

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Some more stats from our EL final against the shittest Man U side you'll ever see:

35% possession
3 total attempts (1 on target, arguably)
0 'clear' chances
1 run into penalty area
66% pass accuracy

We won, and that's what matters - but it was absolutely despite the way we played, not because of it.
European Trophies won by a Spurs manager not named Ange Postecoglou in the last 40 years - 0
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Right or wrong (wrong in this occasion) Frank changed his tactics to play out from the back in that game.
It may not have worked that time but i do like a manager that is flexible with tactics and formations
Not as sure myself. We scored two goals from turnovers and had another 3/4 good opportunities. Seemingly didn’t try to alter it through the match. I don’t watch Brentford every week so maybe off but they look to me like a direct team that tries to mostly play in transitions.

Changing it for our game when at the time we were top of the league in numbers for final third pressures and seemingly not working on it or having good enough players to do it, shouldnt give him that much credit. Ange changed how we were playing in the last part of the season when he went more pragmatic but we looked like a nothing team with no identity. Terrible both sides of the ball.
 
Some more stats from our EL final against the shittest Man U side you'll ever see:

35% possession
3 total attempts (1 on target, arguably)
0 'clear' chances
1 run into penalty area
66% pass accuracy

We won, and that's what matters - but it was absolutely despite the way we played, not because of it.

liverpool won the CL final against us with 39% possession
and 3 attempts on target all game

i wonder if they cared about the way they won it as much as spurs fans seem to about how we won the europa. I do wonder if they said it doesn't really mean much because they just stayed in a deep block against a team thats never been to a CL final with a midfield of winks and sissoko and a half dead harry kane

spurs supporters are truly a interesting bunch
 
I agree to a certain extent, but how is the UEFA cup a 'lesser trophy' exactly?
What's bigger bar the league and champions league?? I've got news for you..we're not gonna win either of those in the near future!.....👍
I think it's fair to say that, whilst only League title and CL are bigger than it, there is quite a big gap in prestige between the two groups.

Europa can be both a major trophy, and a lesser trophy, at the same time.
 
alien language to him! his idea of being a good manager is getting the players to run hard for the love of their families and be ultra high up the pitch, with the added genius spark of having full backs acting as the most important playmakers on the pitch.....
True!

We won the EL which is fantastic. Thank you Ange. But it was backs to wall for much of the game vs a shite United team. Even now, we have the players to be better than that.

After the EL win maybe Ange can land AEK or some other third tier club job in Europe. He might be wise to take that opportunity vs staying on at Spurs tbh.
 
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