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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Get on with it.

It does no one any good this decision being announced getting dragged out.. If the decision is that he's going, you just make it more painful, awkward and fractious by dragging it out.. If the decision is to keep him, then he goes into the new season underminded by the obvious umming and ahhing over his future. The world'll know that he starts the season on the brink.. Which can't work.
 
For 2025-26, we simply can't have the manager that couldn't handle both the PL and competing in a lower level European competition at the same time be the man at the helm for now doing the same thing but in a higher level competition.
And, to be fair, from November 2023-May 2024, he couldnt handle the PL by itself.

Just not cut for managing in this league. His complete disinterest in defending cannot be successful. If he takes a lesser PL squad he'll get them relegated.

Think he has a shot in the MLS, where tactical sophistication is minimal.
 
Get on with it.


"His ability to maximize resources and develop young talent has caught the attention of the Tottenham hierarchy"

There it is :roflmao:

It' s always the same. Levy is always looking for the manager to get more out of the players already present. There is never a 'project' that involves wholesale changes bent on stocking up first team talent. Levy is repeating himself again.

That remark would seem to damn Ange's chances, however. If Ange returns he's going to return to basically the same personnel, and play the same way, which means the same results.
 
I hope it all comes out well for Postecoglou. He cleared the roster, got some experience for the young guys, and reestablished an attacking mindset. There are better places for him to manage and better managers for Spurs.
Fair comment. In two important respects Ange has succeeded:

- we've won a major trophy at long fucking last. I don't diminish this. It's huge.
- our squad is a lot batter than it was 2 years ago. We have some good young players. No Kane, and Son is a sub now, but neither are on Ange. We actually just need a couple of proper PL players now to have a really decent squad. I appreciate that he's had some gaffs too (Werner etc), but generally our hires and exits over the past two years have moved us in the right direction
 
And, to be fair, from November 2023-May 2024, he couldnt handle the PL by itself.

P28 W12 D4 L12, 40 points.

It's very much mid table form but you can't dismiss the first 10 games. When we were sat with 8 wins, top of the league, many voices were critical of it being the easiest start to a Premier League season ever. That of course meant those so called easy games weren't played from November to May.

How many of the defeats were truly shocking?
West Ham at home, Wolves home and away, Fulham and Brighton away maybe?

A 66 point season is not that bad. Only once of the 6 season since Poch left have we achieved more with 71 under Nuno and Conte.

Had we the same results in a different order, the perception would be quite different. Finishing the season on a weak, whimper leaves a lasting memory but you have to take the season in its entirety, not the bit that suits wanting Ange sacked only.
 
P28 W12 D4 L12, 40 points.

It's very much mid table form but you can't dismiss the first 10 games. When we were sat with 8 wins, top of the league, many voices were critical of it being the easiest start to a Premier League season ever. That of course meant those so called easy games weren't played from November to May.

How many of the defeats were truly shocking?
West Ham at home, Wolves home and away, Fulham and Brighton away maybe?

A 66 point season is not that bad. Only once of the 6 season since Poch left have we achieved more with 71 under Nuno and Conte.

Had we the same results in a different order, the perception would be quite different. Finishing the season on a weak, whimper leaves a lasting memory but you have to take the season in its entirety, not the bit that suits wanting Ange sacked only.
Disagree with your last point. Recent results are obviously more important to any rational assessment of how a coach is doing. They are a better guide to future results, in the near term at least.
 
Had we the same results in a different order, the perception would be quite different. Finishing the season on a weak, whimper leaves a lasting memory but you have to take the season in its entirety, not the bit that suits wanting Ange sacked only.
Well yes because it indicates a direction of travel.

Those first ten games were electric, and if they were recent obviously people would say there's something brewing there. But they're not recent, they're long gone and that form has never looked like being recaptured since.
 
Kane was injured for the majority of the CL knockouts and the end of the league season. Pochettino masterminded wins over peak City, an incredible Ajax team who would've cakewalked this years EL without getting out of second gear, and a pretty good Dortmund team - as well as navigating Inter and Barca in the groups.
LOL. Masterminded? Navigating? You seriously gotta refreshed your memory there. We were almost out of the group stages if not for better head to head away goals VS Inter. We were always trailing early at CL matches, our defence were shit even with Toby and Verts. Lloris was so undependent. City would have been through if not for VAR. As much as the Ajax game was an eternal classic, you can't deny there was such a huge element of luck in that game, if not for most of our CL journey to the final. Only the Dortmund game was the convincing one in the knockout stages out of the entire CL campaign.

We were 4th in the league that season but had 13 losses, as many as Wolves who were 7th. You guys bashing Ange for throwing away the league for Europa was the same done by Poch. We lost 5 games after we were confirmed as semi-finalists in the CL, almost half of our entire losses for the season happened towards the end of the campaign. Poch was moody and many were saying the CL advancement was just papering over the cracks then. Deep down everybody knew that the CL campaign was a fairy tale if we truly won it, but most wouldn't be confident at all to despatch Liverpool.
 
You can only hope Levy and the board make the best decision for the club, and that's preventing us from becoming relegation candidates which is a possibility under Ange.

I really appreciate what he's done for us in terms of the Europs League, and having a massive influence in motivating the players, though I'm sure all of us are thankful for that.
 
Disagree with your last point. Recent results are obviously more important to any rational assessment of how a coach is doing. They are a better guide to future results, in the near term at least.
That dreadful 12:30 away game at Newcastle, followed by defeats to Chelsea, Woolwich and Liverpool when we needed a result or 2 really changed how that season will forever be remembered.

Still think most Spurs fans recognised it as a decent season overall that you might have taken at the start of the season - 66 points and 5th after Kane leaves.

Still you are of course right the most recent results are the most relevant for how you're going forward, but you assess a season in its entirety for full context when talking about 23 24.
 
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