• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Ange Postecoglou

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Silvio Dante said:
It's just blind faith.

We don't have the players or ownership to win the PL or the CL any time soon. I think we can agree on that.

So we're down to the domestic cups, and he's done absolutely nothing to suggest he can out manage any of the top 6-8 clubs in England in crunch matches.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That's the truly funny bit about this entire debate.

A lot of the Inners believe that Ange will raise the quality and standard of the club from where it has been.

A lot of us outers believe that Ange himself is not up to the quality and standard required to do that.

Both sides are sorta coming from the same place. Wanting the club to do better.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
Fat? Need to get your eyes tested.


Last game of the season, less than a couple of weeks back...

PXL-20250525-171650191-2.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

It’s a lovely angle, most of the rest still show the moobs.
 
JimothyCF14 said:
Does that 4-0 really balance out the rest of the shit we've watched in the league?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The statement you made was "there have been no signs of life for 18 months".

That isn't true.

What *IS* true is that we haven't maintained consistent player fitness or consistent form for any real length of time at any point. I liked the analogy someone made the other day to a kid playing FIFA just holding down the turbo button 100% of the time. That's how Ange has managed the club. When he's got turbo power available to burn there have been moments, but only ever moments.

Can he be more judicious in the future? Can Angeball even function with a more patient mindset? For me he's earned the right to at least be heard out on those questions. But if the answers aren't good, then we've got to go get somebody who can sustain a campaign on multiple fronts, because those fronts are massively daunting starting immediately next season.
 
FightingIllini said:
The statement you made was "there have been no signs of life for 18 months".

That isn't true.

What *IS* true is that we haven't maintained consistent player fitness or consistent form for any real length of time at any point. I liked the analogy someone made the other day to a kid playing FIFA just holding down the turbo button 100% of the time. That's how Ange has managed the club. When he's got turbo power available to burn there have been moments, but only ever moments.

Can he be more judicious in the future? Can Angeball even function with a more patient mindset? For me he's earned the right to at least be heard out on those questions. But if the answers aren't good, then we've got to go get somebody who can sustain a campaign on multiple fronts, because those fronts are massively daunting starting immediately next season.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Ok but he's had two full seasons to try that, why is his third going to be different?

What I'm getting it at here is I don't want him replaced out of any malice or ill feeling towards the bloke, I just deep down genuinely don't believe he is willing or able based on the evidence so far.
 
FightingIllini said:
Can he be more judicious in the future? Can Angeball even function with a more patient mindset? For me he's earned the right to at least be heard out on those questions.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Oh for fuck sake he’s answered these questions already and it’s a complete no. Angeball doesn’t exist, it’s just suicidal bullshit that got worked out months ago. We won a cup by playing the total opposite vs subpar opposition.

Wake up.
 
This entire discussion feels so much more overcomplicated than it needs to be.

Has Ange shown any ability to manage two highly-competitive competitions at the same time? No, in fact he has admitted (whether you believe it or not) that he thew the league so he could just manage one.

Will next year be even more difficult than this past year? Yes, there will be even more attention to our league form at the start of next year, and he will be under instant and significant pressure if things sour at the start. There will be no easy walks for us in CL.

Do we honestly think that Levy will be out splashing the cash to give everything we can to Ange? No.


Keep it simple. Next year will be significantly harder with even higher levels of pressure. NOTHING that has happened this season shows Ange's ability to manage this load of games. Based on this past season, unless we come shooting out of the gate in top form, the pressure will go from 0-100 in about 5 games.
 
Bill Madrid said:
Yeah, we should sack him while he's on holiday. A WhatsApp should do it.

Classy. Sub-Chelsea. Is that who we've become?

I fucking despair.

:ange-hands-head:
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We can't sack him while we are still in cups.

We can't sack him while he is on holiday.

What next? We can't sack him while Levy is still bald?

BTW they can always book a ticket and reach him face to face while he is on holiday. Tottenham Hotspur club needs to operate even when Big Ange is on holiday.
 
Mince Charming said:
Interesting. When I think of normal, happy people whose club have just won a European trophy after 2 decades of abject failure, I don’t think of those frequenting this thread, moaning about the manager and crying about how they don’t like his personality(!) Unstable people with personal issues you say? Hate to say it, but that kind of checks out to be honest.

Let’s be real, some of you normal, happy people (lol) are in need of a wake up call. Here’s a fact supported by many, many years worth of incontrovertible evidence for you: Spurs don’t win trophies, Postecoglou wins trophies. Rather than circle jerking one another in here, your time would be better spent realising that finishing 4th or 5th and achieving absolutely nothing apart from making Levy richer year on year isn’t a worthwhile endeavour.

And here I was thinking I’d come in here and see all you normal, happy folks being normal and happy by basking in the warm glow of winning a European trophy. But no, this is some weird Stockholm Syndrome shit where legions of mini-Levys are desperate for a return to the business as usual of ‘winning’ their qualification trophies.

What was it Postecoglou said about weak foundations?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Illustration Simpsons GIF by Juta Studio
 
Bill Madrid said:
Yeah, we should sack him while he's on holiday. A WhatsApp should do it.

Classy. Sub-Chelsea. Is that who we've become?

I fucking despair.

:ange-hands-head:
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I agree that it’s not an ideal situation and perhaps he should have been told before he went on holiday if the intention is to sack him. Either way if we are a serious club then upsetting Ange whilst he is on holiday is a relatively small price to pay if delaying telling him will have a negative impact on our preparations for the new season. I am sure Ange has broad enough shoulders to cope.
 
Why do people think our league form will change under Ange going into his third season?

The worrying trend is we've been getting worse in the league under Ange with every passing week.

How the hell is he going to balance CL and PL?
Something he's clearly demonstrated he can't cope with, dealing with multiple competitions.

When we're mid table (or worse) and out of the all cups maybe the penny will drop.
 
ILSpur said:
This entire discussion feels so much more overcomplicated than it needs to be.

Has Ange shown any ability to manage two highly-competitive competitions at the same time? No, in fact he has admitted (whether you believe it or not) that he thew the league so he could just manage one.

Will next year be even more difficult than this past year? Yes, there will be even more attention to our league form at the start of next year, and he will be under instant and significant pressure if things sour at the start. There will be no easy walks for us in CL.

Do we honestly think that Levy will be out splashing the cash to give everything we can to Ange? No.


Keep it simple. Next year will be significantly harder with even higher levels of pressure. NOTHING that has happened this season shows Ange's ability to manage this load of games. Based on this past season, unless we come shooting out of the gate in top form, the pressure will go from 0-100 in about 5 games.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Nicely put. Take all the emotion and culture war style rubbish out of it and that hits the nail on the head.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top