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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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harry7 said:
Well, getting knocked out in the round of 32 in the Europa league....doesn't that make him 17th in that league?

Are you saying he sacrificed Europe to prioritise the league? Or was he a poor coach who couldn't win Europe?

PS....an actual elite manager wins trophies, and doesn't just play to finish 4th.
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I'd take poch every time over Ange. Never saw poch have a go at the fans and use every excuse for when we got beat. It was the best football I've seen us play. That team should have won trophys. Never saw Poch chuck the league away. Ange is an arsehole and an arrogant tosser.
 
spursfan76 said:
Did he really make that decision though?
I remember him rushing back both VDV and Romero just for them to get injured. And that was for a league game.
It seems more like a story he constructed afterwards. And the reason we lost 22 games was not because of a depleted squad. It was because of really poor game plans.
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He rushed back Romero and VDV in the Chelsea home game which was our 15th game. We were 10th then so my assumption would be that he still thought we could push on in the league if both came through that game and we got a result. As it turns out, they didn't come through that game, we didn't get a result and things got worse. I think the decision to scrap the league was probably made in early March. Look, I think we should part ways but I'm going to be objective about it and fair. Ultimately we cant lose 22 games and it wasn't just the defeats it was the manner of them that worries me.
 
Higgo said:
My thoughts...

- Deal agreed with Frank
- Waiting for him and Ange to both get back from holiday
- Brentford speaking with replacements
- Romano will tweet something out by the weekend
- Announcements made by both Spurs and Brentford Monday / Tuesday next week.
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Sensible, rational post.

I fucking hope this isn't the case though. Frank's a good manager but hardly inspiring off the back of an EL win. We'll be comfortably back up to 8th and knocked out in the quarters of all Cups, if that.

The only way this makes sense to me is Frank steadying the ship for 18 months before Poch comes back.

Hire Xavi now.
 
Archie said:
I'd take poch every time over Ange. Never saw poch have a go at the fans and use every excuse for when we got beat. It was the best football I've seen us play. That team should have won trophys. Never saw Poch chuck the league away. Ange is an arsehole and an arrogant tosser.
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Poch's priority was top 4 - above all else. There was no pressure to win anything, and no compromises made to try and win a domestic cup.

Our Champions League run to the final resulted in 3 wins from our final 12 league games as he rested players and played weakened teams in the league. It was only through shockingly bad Woolwich and United end of season run that we got 4th; and we were just a few points away from ending up 6th.
 
harry7 said:
This is what this team can do when they are fit and we don't have to start 18 year olds.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5E1XPzWvAY

After this game, we went on for 2.5 months with a game on average EVERY 3.5 days. All whilst missing VDV, Romero, Odobert and then losing Dragusin, Davies, Madisson, Udogie, Vicario, Werner, Johnson to injury.

Ange is on record saying that there was no training during this period. Play Game, rest, recovery - Play another game.

3 new players joined - Kinsky, Tel and Danso. Again, no time to integrate them into training session - straight into games.
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You know you really want it
The voices I hear
Whenever you're around
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Nothing else can beat it
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Whenever I'm in town (mm mm)
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Aroma so inviting
And when it hits me
I wanna take you home
Trust me, you must see
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Driving me crazy
Hungry to the bone
I think of you and lick my lips
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You're so sweet and you're neat
You knock me off my two feet
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I'm coming back for more (Hot Dog)
Your taste all embraces
I gotta sing your praises
Just savor the flavors
Waiting at your door
I think of you and lick my lips
You got the taste I can't resist
Can't resist, can't resist
Let's eat to the beat
A Pizza Hut, a Pizza Hut
Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut
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Let's eat to the beat
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Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut
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Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut
McDonald's, McDonald's
Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut
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Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut
A Pizza Hut, a Pizza Hut
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I'd give Frank 3 months before we turn on him. Feels like Nuno all over again. A good manager in a mid table side whose primary objective is to retain their premier league place.
 
Slav said:
Sensible, rational post.

I fucking hope this isn't the case though. Frank's a good manager but hardly inspiring off the back of an EL win. We'll be comfortably back up to 8th and knocked out in the quarters of all Cups, if that.

The only way this makes sense to me is Frank steadying the ship for 18 months before Poch comes back.

Hire Xavi now.
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I like Frank. Xavi of course would be great.
 
What if there has been no announcement because the club feels like there is no need to respond to rumours?

What if there has been no announcement because they want a replacement lined up straight away?

What if there has been no announcement because they are waiting to chat to Ange after his holiday?

What if there has been no announcement because they want to line up a few signings to cover the news?

What if there has been no announcement because they want Romero to sign a new contract to make it harder for him to leave when they say they are sacking Ange?

What if there has been no announcement because they're waiting for the moon to align with Uranus?

What if there has been no announcement because they're waiting for the next GTA6 trailer to drop?

I dunno how you guys juggle all these feelings day to day.
 
simon j said:
The fact no replacement for mason lined up would suggest that Ange is out the door.
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I think a lot of people ranting about the lack of manager news aren’t appreciating the level of change going on right now.

Board members are resigning, we have a new CEO, Paratici is coming back, Mason has left, Munn will be sacked, Ange will be sacked, the medical department have already been sacked. It’s frustrating that we are in this situation but understandable that there isn’t much output from the club at the moment.
 
Wild Night said:
If Ange is keeping his job wouldn't the board just announce this and stop all the speculation and supporter frustration ?
It's Levy and the board that are copping all the shite for not disclosing what they are doing , so why not just announce he's staying .
Very weird to me .
If he's staying .
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Agree, the only logical conclusion is that he's leaving. What they are waiting for, who knows? Maybe they want him back from the vacation so they can tell him in person. Or they are trying to seal a deal with the replacement. I don't know.

But I agree, the time it takes too communicate points towards him leaving.
 
Sainsbury's Tottenham are fresh out of Mr Muscle Drain Unblocker.

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Mostly wrong said:
I literally cannot remember a single time under Conte, Nuno, Mourinho or even as far back as Poch where we had even half as many injuries in one season as we have had in either of Ange's seasons.
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We haven't.
During my time of 16 years as fan, it had never been as bad as it was in Ange 1st season. Only to be topped at 2nd season.

*now sits back to wait for apologists to come out with level of "this EPL season was derailed by injuries" that are fully ignoring reality that in first 12-14 games we had minimal injuries but still shit results*
 
_mehstg said:
He rushed back Romero and VDV in the Chelsea home game which was our 15th game. We were 10th then so my assumption would be that he still thought we could push on in the league if both came through that game and we got a result. As it turns out, they didn't come through that game, we didn't get a result and things got worse. I think the decision to scrap the league was probably made in early March. Look, I think we should part ways but I'm going to be objective about it and fair. Ultimately we cant lose 22 games and it wasn't just the defeats it was the manner of them that worries me.
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Ok, i see what you mean. But in my opinion, he is just making it up. If you apply smarter tactics you can play with inferior players and still get results. Just look at the 16 teams above us. Most of them had inferior players. Only the relegated teams lost 22 games or more.

And, if he was going to throw the games, why not let the academy kids get game time?

Ange is a liar. He did not throw any game. He is a charlatan. The raw strength of our squad powered us through europa league. Nothing else. We were fractions away from going out or giving up our leads on multiple occasions. That happened against AZ, Frankfurt and United. There was no masterplan.

And if anyone is buying his version, then I believe another club like Spurs will move in for him. Most likely though, he's never getting any top job again.
 
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