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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Archie said:
I'd take poch every time over Ange. Never saw poch have a go at the fans and use every excuse for when we got beat. It was the best football I've seen us play. That team should have won trophys. Never saw Poch chuck the league away. Ange is an arsehole and an arrogant tosser.
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This is pretty revisionist. Poch was talking himself away from the club late winter, league form collapsed (6 wins in the last 15) and players like Eriksen completely checked out mentally.

I’ll always love our time under Poch but we lost that CL final well before a ball was even kicked and we were only there because of some miraculous play by Moura.

Regardless of what was happening behind closed doors with Levy, he caused that. I wouldn’t want him back tbh.
 
Smogz said:
Agree, the only logical conclusion is that he's leaving. What they are waiting for, who knows? Maybe they want him back from the vacation so they can tell him in person. Or they are trying to seal a deal with the replacement. I don't know.

But I agree, the time it takes too communicate points towards him leaving.
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The other possibility is that he's not leaving and they feel no need to state that he's not until he is. He still does have 2 years to run on his contract.
 
Matt1882 said:
Fluke? No.

But you can be "overpowered" for it.
The only club we faced in the entire tournament with resources close to us was Man United and they're worse than we are.

So no, it's not a fluke. But Ange was lucky in the sense he was allowed to keep losing week after week in the premier league, and continue to manage wins on Thursdays.

ANY OTHER manager prior to him would have been sacked before getting to the final and, ultimately winning it.
He was afforded a privilege none prior have been. And in a way, that is his fluke.
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Matt1882 said:
Fluke? No.

But you can be "overpowered" for it.
The only club we faced in the entire tournament with resources close to us was Man United and they're worse than we are.

So no, it's not a fluke. But Ange was lucky in the sense he was allowed to keep losing week after week in the premier league, and continue to manage wins on Thursdays.

ANY OTHER manager prior to him would have been sacked before getting to the final and, ultimately winning it.
He was afforded a privilege none prior have been. And in a way, that is his fluke.
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Really good post.

The fluke or fortune was the continued stay i in the role, despite the weekly embarrassments.

Arguably call that Levy's foresight or good luck as well.

But now the guillotine.
 
StripiestPilot said:
I think a lot of people ranting about the lack of manager news aren’t appreciating the level of change going on right now.

Board members are resigning, we have a new CEO, Paratici is coming back, Mason has left, Munn will be sacked, Ange will be sacked, the medical department have already been sacked. It’s frustrating that we are in this situation but understandable that there isn’t much output from the club at the moment.
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Think it's more to do with football fans generally being overgrown, spoilt children.
Some of the protestations remind me of the spoilt brat in Willy Wonka.
"I want a golden goose and I want it NOW"


CarrieFi said:

View: https://x.com/georgebann/status/1930020492997505442?s=46
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I mean, Wrexham are kinda high profile these days. But think their guys probably better qualified than Flange.
 
Deuterz said:
Frankly they should have known before the final, if they changed their mind based on that 90 minutes of garbage then we have very worrying people in charge.
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This is even worse than United and Ten Egg last year after the FA cup.

It was a pretty obvious decision to boot him out but you could at least make a case to keep him:

Beat the best team in the country in the final
the best performance of the season
About the only time he could claim he had his best XI
And beat LFC on the way to the final too (absolute fluke but hey)

Like I said it was a ridiculous decision. I was rooting for United that day on the off chance that they might keep him and blow me down they did!!!

With us?

We won a cup that we were favourites to win before a ball had been kicked
Lucked out with playing the likes of Bodo United and not Lyon Bilbao.
The final was just an embarrassing Allardyce/Pulis - score one and then boot the ball up to the half way line and hope they don't equalise. I cannot remember a worse match to watch that we won going back to 1969-70 season.

Cannot believe that Levy hasn't looked at the PL form and realised what a shit show it's been

The guy's toast. Thousands of STs would walk away after the garbage that Fatso has served up. I'm sure the sponsors would have an opinion and I bet he'd listen to them
 
Matt1882 said:
Think it's more to do with football fans generally being overgrown, spoilt children.
Some of the protestations remind me of the spoilt brat in Willy Wonka.
"I want a golden goose and I want it NOW"




I mean, Wrexham are kinda high profile these days. But think their guys probably better qualified than Flange.
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There is truth in that. But this club has been a shambles or in crisis on numerous occassions during Levys tenure. Fans are right to be annoyed/disillusioned.
 
Herclueless said:
Absolutely nobody has done that btw, this guy is just making up absurdities to argue against because the ridiculous hypothetical the Ange fanatics have dreamed up has no substantial argument in their favour...
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The bloke who dismissed our European Championship as "second rate" is answered by the bloke who turned his nose up at winning the Champions League - who then goes on to deny that ever happened even though it's literally a few pages back as part of this exchange:
Phomesy said:
If Ange stayed, won CL, finished 17th AND WAS SACKED THE NEXT DAY

Would you take that? :D
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Herclueless said:
No, I don't care who the manager is in or after the scenario, I don't enjoy getting rolled over in the league every week to the extent that I stop getting annoyed and just become apathetic about it.
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:angesmile2:
 
If they sack him, I'll understand why they had to but part of me will be disappointed.

If they keep him, I'll be glad the rumours can stop and hope he's backed and has a great start to the season.

If they replace him with Frank, I'll be massively underwhelmed.
 
In some ways, I want him to start next season so we can lose the majority of the first half a dozen games.
At least then it should shut some of the simps up and prove the remaining Angebois are literally not Spurs fans.

If we boot him now, it's sort of hard to prove he was a problem. Even if we won the title next season under his replacement. If that happened, I'd expect them to claim he set us up for it.
And if the new guy was as bad, or worse, they'd claim Ange was performing miracles as it was...
 
PatagoniaPhil said:
There is truth in that. But this club has been a shambles or in crisis on numerous occassions during Levys tenure. Fans are right to be annoyed/disillusioned.
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Absolutely.
But stomping feet, screwing up their faces and whining "why hasn't he been sacked yet" is just embarrassing behaviour for adults.

He'll get the sack. It might be today, tomorrow, 5 games into next season, or anywhere between.
It will happen.
 
Smogz said:
Agree, the only logical conclusion is that he's leaving. What they are waiting for, who knows? Maybe they want him back from the vacation so they can tell him in person. Or they are trying to seal a deal with the replacement. I don't know.

But I agree, the time it takes too communicate points towards him leaving.
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The longer this goes on the more likely it is he stays. They are not waiting for his vacation to be over to sack him - the football industry is far more ruthless than that!
 
Deuterz said:
He’d not be my first choice but I think he’s an intelligent bloke who is an adaptive coach and will probably get us looking a lot more effective in the premier league.

Neither inspired nor outraged is the simple answer. He’s a good coach but might not be right for a club our size. I don’t think he’s quite Nuno part 2 but it does have some similarities.

Again though, I’ve always quite liked him .. he comes across really well in interviews especially imo.
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He doesn't exactly get the blood flowing to your nethers, but he's competent and tactically astute.

That's a world of improvement on the current vibes fiasco.
 
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