Graham, Mourinho, and Conte have 32 major trophies between them.
Hiring a manager who has managed "at a top level" previously is overrated.
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Hiring a manager who has managed "at a top level" previously is overrated.
i've got a feeling we're finish higher this season ......
JJ used to be fairly on the money but I think he called it a day after getting pushback when the Berahino deal didn’t happen. Tbf if he was still active he’d be done now with Cullen gone anyways.A lot of it was genuine leaks though. Pretty sure that SC was the one where Joshua Levy was posting on it, and at one point there were others who were related. There is a certain amount where stuff will leak. I meanBushHillSpurs is Harry Kane's wife's (Katie) cousin, so I suspect his aunt/uncle would know well in advance about Germany. I say this having had interactions in a job, must have been 10 years ago, that I shared on here. Not at all the case since then, but just saying that you could be working or visiting somewhere where you see Frank enter a conference room with Lange and Paratici, for example.
Now that isn't the same as some of the caricatures that have persisted and end up doing Septic Peg impressions regularly. There are some people who had connections. I've been reading but not posting on there for years so not full familiar but wasn't it greyfox and rebrav (?) who were well connected and then stepped back when they lost their info. Not the same as like 'dragon1' or 'trix' or 'hercules' or 'gards' or some of the other COYS guys who seem to like the reverence. Don't get me start on twitter.
I think a lot of the "ITK" factor of SC and COYS dried out through the club fixing the leaks. It's absolutely no surprise to me that it was peak during the Redknapp days, as I bet he would be getting petrol on the services telling random people who he fancied signing, or who was in for a medical on a given day.
I think the club has plugged a lot of leaks over the years in general tbh.
I think back to back Champions League qualification, and a trophy, are the minimum expectations for Thomas Frank in his first two seasons (assuming we sign him, and he lasts two seasons that is).
That would represent a slight improvement over Postecoglou's first two seasons, which is the least we can expect surely?
Whether we like it or not, every coach at a big club is judged on Silverware.
As they should be. If you get 100 points, likely the league is very weak. Just because there was only one team stronger than you, that doesn’t mean that you won anything.
Finishing 2nd would be an outstanding season for Frank and very encouraging that success would around the corner. It wouldn’t be success though because it would be 2nd. I don’t make the rules mate.
Ange is the motivator cum Media guy..... he is not a coach
that's why when his 'coaches' failed - he failed.
maybe he didn't get someone else more experience fearing they will usurp him -so stuck to a few unknowns he knew/employed in other prev clubs
I'm sure everyone here thinks everyone else is a ***t.
So technically everyone is in the 71% depending who asks.
Yeah if we finished 2nd on 100 points that wouldn’t be a successful season and someone finishing 17th but beating a few far worse teams to win a EL would be.
So fucking stupid and binary. Of course you make the rules, you just did. Finishing 2nd or getting 100 points would be an insanely successful season for Spurs by almost any measure, it just wouldn’t be a winning season.
Tottenham AGREE deal to make Thomas Frank new manager after Ange axe
THOMAS FRANK has agreed to become the new Tottenham manager. SunSport understands that following talks over the weekend, the Brentford boss is close to becoming Ange Postecoglou’s replacement…
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THOMAS FRANK has agreed to become the new Tottenham manager.
SunSport understands that following talks over the weekend, the Brentford boss is close to becoming Ange Postecoglou's replacement.
Frank, 51, wants to make the switch across London which will end his near-seven-year spell with the Bees.
It is now down to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy to settle on a compensation package with G-Tech stadium chiefs.
Tottenham brutally sacked Postecoglou on Friday despite the Aussie ending their 17-year trophy drought by winning the Europa League last month.
And Levy is moving quickly to appoint the Dane, who guided Brentford to a 10th place Premier League finish this season.
Fulham manager Marco Silva and Bournemouth's Andoni Iraola have been in the running but Frank is expected to become the fourth permanent Tottenham boss in the last four years.
Frank joined Brentford in 2018 and after promotion to the top-flight less than three years later, he has made them an established Prem club.
The Dane already wants to bring Bryan Mbeumo, 25, with him to North London with Spurs trying to hijack Manchester United's proposed deal for the Cameroonian winger.
Although that could cost Levy up to £70million with a possible £10m deal for Frank, plus £60m for Mbuemo's services.
That would test Tottenham's financial power, especially as Mbeumo is thought to be demanding around £250,000 per week in wages, which would make him the club's highest-paid player.
But Spurs' victory over United in Bilbao does mean they can offer him Champions League football.
Frank will also be tasked with a significant improvement in the Premier League following Tottenham's worst ever finish.
Despite Postecoglou's European success, he oversaw a club-record 22 Prem defeats, which resulted in them coming 17th.
He needs to get 5th as a minimum this year.
The trophy is a big ask given the history of this club. Right now Levy is at the wheel, very few managers have managed to overcome him and win something, including some of the very best
Like arguing that if the U.K. finished 2nd in the Olympics but didn’t beat the USA it wouldn’t be a successful campaign. Success is relative. It’s not successful if we didn’t win anything isn’t applicable to any but a handful of clubs like Madrid, Barca etc.
And the idea that you’re had success by default if you win a minor trophy but blow everything else is also stupid and binary. United finish 15th but win a league cup - would that be considered success by anyone? No.
Maybe teams should deliberately qualify and win the conference instead of qualifying for the CL as it’s infinitely easier to win and winning = success whereas CL final would not be not success as no winning. No flawed logical process here.
And the idea that you’re had success by default if you win a minor trophy but blow everything else is also stupid and binary. United finish 15th but win a league cup - would that be considered success by anyone? No.
Maybe teams should deliberately qualify and win the conference instead of qualifying for the CL as it’s infinitely easier to win and winning = success whereas CL final would not be not success as no winning. No flawed logical process here.
F that - Champions League is shite.
Here’s what success looks like (sarcasm) …
Frank leads us to a 7th place finish next season which gets us a West Spam European Conference Cup slot. In season 2, we win the Spam European Cup - which gets us automatic Europa League qualification and in Frank’s 3rd season, we win the Europa League again.
Obviously after Frank’s first season,league position doesn’t matter as long as we are not relegated. We need to sacrifice the league like Ange … But Frank will have to lead us to 7th again in season 4.
To get into the CL we would have to end up in the top 4 or 5, cant see it with the present squad irrespective of whose the manager.
I’d take those 3 seasons over 3 top 4 finishes with no trophies
Yes, because you’re an idiot and would prefer to be the West Ham or Sevilla of England than to be playing at the highest level and having enjoyable football which you can look forward to on a weekly basis.
It’s obviously utterly mental which is why no club other than those on shoestrings who can do nothing else operate like it and instead judge success on silly things like quality of football, development of the squad and the amount of football games you win.
Not a dig at you, because I've no idea of your position on Ange, but a "fat Aussie fraud" got us 5th in his very first season in the Premier League, with much the same squad as we have now.
If Thomas Frank is the tactical genius and football mastermind, some on here claim he is, he should be getting top 4 next season at the absolute minimum, especially given he's got plenty more PL experience.
We had zero European football when Ange got top 5 and the league was weaker. Villa and Newcastle have risen since then, Chelsea are also improved. It’s probably the most competitive top 6 fight ever on paper next season.
Frank will have to manage CL and fight against that. Nobody thinks he’s a genius or a mastermind but as a good coach I expect to see a well coached team. Where we finish will depend greatly on many, many factors outside of how great he is.
Ange finishing 5th first season was on paper very good, but after the first 10 games we went downhill and lost all sense of progress and then finished the season horrendously badly and clung on to fifth barely. It left a bad taste in the mouth.
Contrast to Poch first season where we grew as the season went on and had a huge 5-3 win over Chelsea plus reaching a final. Clear progress. Players developing. A team which was obviously being coached to get better.
Rightly so... when was the last time PL points were sold in an auction??? Medals and the nostalgic beauty of winning should be what any club strives. Everything else is failure unless you're Woolwich.
Lot of bs in there. He has an awful record against the top 6.
