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Depends if it allows us to then get Mbeumo or Eze etc.

VDV, Danso, Dragusin, Collins is a stable enough base for Frank to build from.

Romero only came good near the end of season.

I remember all the games he was dashing out into midfield and not recovering on turnovers, leaving massive holes for the oppo to run into and people were absolutely furious when it led to goals.

Spot on , I’ll take Dragusin/ Danso at RCB if it means going stronger for a winger or midfielder who transforms the starting 11.

Danso and Dragusin are good centre backs who struggled in Ange’s system, I strongly suspect they will be far more effective in Frank’s setup.

A ball playing centre back was crucial in what was Angie’s system before he abandoned it a year ago, it is no longer an imperative and compromises must be made!
 
Player like Romero was absolutely crucial for what Ange wanted to do. He was a deep lying playmaker at time.

if settling for Collins also allows us to buy Branthwaite, I think that makes the squad better

Collins is probably better than Branthwaite at this point of their careers.

Branthwaite has one foot and it’s not that great. Solid defender and set piece threat but Dragusin is legitimately better in the build up than Branthwaite
 
He's good but elite?

As far as I can see, the season just gone is the first time he's reached double figures since 2019, when he was in the Championship. His assists are ok, but for a bit of context, Johnson has 22 goals and 14 assists in all competitions (50 games). Mbuemo has 20 goals and 8 assists (41 games), yet Johnson gets dogs abuse on here.

I think it's a stretch to label Mbuemo as "elite."
You might be right. He is very effective. IMO a much better player than Johnson. Though I don't give the latter dogs abuse. He's a decent option who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net.
 
When he's on it he's off the charts.

But he can blow hot and cold, mate.

Rarely seen Mbeumo have an off day.

Guy is super consistent and can properly bag as well, and has incredible work ethic.
Thing with Mbeumo is I find him to be a bit too poachy. He’s a great player but doesn’t exactly strike fear into defenders when running at them and his cuts, crosses, and on-ball decision making, while miles clear of Johnson’s, are only decent for a winger. He’s more of an inside forward for me than anything. He's like a poor man’s Mo Salah with less dribbling ability. This is of course a good thing but imo he’d go a bit missing here.

He’s an excellent add for a team with a coherent build-up environment and a lot of chance creation. But we simply don’t have that, our team is riddled with technical insecurity and so Eze who can act as both outlet and metronome would do more for us.
 
Allow me to dream...

First XI
1
t.Stegen
2
Porro
3
Guehi
4
Micky
5
Robinson
6
Bergvall
7
Barella
8
Maddison
9
Mbeumo
10
Osimhen
11
Eze
lineup code
[lineup]
t.Stegen
Porro Guehi Micky Robinson
Bergvall Barella
Maddison
Mbeumo Osimhen Eze
[/lineup]


(How I'd love to see that team play at the Lane!)

Resies
1
 Kinsky
2
Djed
3
Danso
4
Murillo
5
Leif
6
Archie
7
Bentancur
8
Kulu
9
Brennan
10
Solanke
11
Sonny
lineup code
[lineup]
 Kinsky
Djed Danso Murillo Leif
Archie Bentancur
Kulu
Brennan Solanke Sonny
[/lineup]


Extras
Austin, Vuskovic/Phillips, Ben, Sarr, Devine/Donley, Odobert, Dane/Lanks

Loan Out
Vusko/Ash, Dorrington, Devine/Donley, Mikey, Dane/Lanks
 
Collins is probably better than Branthwaite at this point of their careers.

Branthwaite has one foot and it’s not that great. Solid defender and set piece threat but Dragusin is legitimately better in the build up than Branthwaite

Not disagreeing with anything you said. Just laying out potential scenarios.

As we both know CBs that can play out the back and are very good defensively are usually very expensive. They aren't the kind of players I expect Frank to pound the table for.

Maybe he wants no-nonsense CBs first and foremost and will look to buildup differently than Ange. I dont know.
 
Thing with Mbeumo is I find him to be a bit too poachy. He’s a great player but doesn’t exactly strike fear into defenders when running at them and his cuts, crosses, and on-ball decision making, while miles clear of Johnson’s, are only decent for a winger. He’s more of an inside forward for me than anything. He's like a poor man’s Mo Salah with less dribbling ability. This is of course a good thing but imo he’d go a bit missing here.

He’s an excellent add for a team with a coherent build-up environment and a lot of chance creation. But we simply don’t have that, our team is riddled with technical insecurity and so Eze who can act as both outlet and metronome would do more for us.
I hear you.

But the guy is super robust and effective and can deliver numbers.

I just don't see the downside and would suit us well.

If we had Eze instead would still love it, of course, but I just can't take any shine away from Mbeumo.

Admired his game for a while.
 
You can’t just look at the numbers when you analyse a player. Johnson has become a good predator from 6 yards out but he is virtually non-existent in build up play. Can’t dribble, can’t really pass or cross with any quality, doesn’t shoot from more than 10 yards out. He is not dangerous when in possession of the ball. Mbuemo is.
I've already said that the stats don't tell the whole story. However, how dangerous is a player when in possession, when, apart from this season, he's not contributed a whole lot, even in the Championship?

I've also said I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, I just don't see him as this "elite" player that more than a few on here seem to think he is, that puts a pretty large bandwidth on "elite."

Would that make the likes of Yamal or Williams Meta Humans?
 
Call me crazy but I think Eze would do more for our team than Mbeumo.
Glasses Why Dont We Have Both GIF by nounish ⌐◨-◨


Oh wait...

:levylol:
 
Not disagreeing with anything you said. Just laying out potential scenarios.

As we both know CBs that can play out the back and are very good defensively are usually very expensive. They aren't the kind of players I expect Frank to pound the table for.

Maybe he wants no-nonsense CBs first and foremost and will look to buildup differently than Ange. I dont know.

I hear you but CBs are expensive for a reason. Top teams that want to win trophies understand that CBs are often the big game winners and the most important part of the spine of your team.

It’s not so much about Frank but the club. If they want to replace Romero with Collins they can fuck off tbh.
 
I hear you.

But the guy is super robust and effective and can deliver numbers.

I just don't see the downside and would suit us well.

If we had Eze instead would still love it, of course, but I just can't take any shine away from Mbeumo.

Admired his game for a while.
I actually disagree. Eze at his best is a total game changer I agree.

Mbeumo is more consistent.

And RW / RF is a position we are weaker in. We actually have some decent MFers and need to see what Frank can do with them.
tbh I think some of this may be subconscious coping because I don’t believe Mbeumo is gettable, United have their hooks into him already and if it becomes a wage competition there’s only one winner. I do agree a RW who can do more then tap-ins at the back post should be priority #1 for our attack.
 
I hear you but CBs are expensive for a reason. Top teams that want to win trophies understand that CBs are often the big game winners and the most important part of the spine of your team.

It’s not so much about Frank but the club. If they want to replace Romero with Collins they can fuck off tbh.

Yeah well that's just the sad state of this club that isn't changing .

You can basically end every transfer conversation by bringing up ownership.

There's always going to be bad decisions made.

We'll always be left short in certain areas. I'm hoping Frank can bring better defensive structure that will allow us to allocate more of our budget to top end attacking players.
 
tbh I think some of this may be subconscious coping because I don’t believe Mbeumo is gettable, United have their hooks into him already and if it becomes a wage competition there’s only one winner. I do agree a RW who can do more then tap-ins at the back post should be priority #1 for our attack.
I'm just hoping probably unrealistically that Mbeumo is close to Frank, wants to stay in London, and that Levy will do the decent thing and offer him £200k p/w.
 
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