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I like this take and hope it works out. But it’s a model of sustainability for a Brentford, a Brighton, to find the great from amongst the good. We should be a whole level above that. We need to stop pretending we’re not a big club. With our resources and fanbase, we bloody well are.
Not really. I don't think Danso was "top notch" against Brighton either.
Ange tried three at the back at Everton and it looked schoolboy.
If VDV and Romero are fit we win enough games as a four.
All of that said, if Frank's 4-2-3-1 gets dicked on by Liverpool and Woolwich in the first 8 games of the season then yes, he should change it.
I think a lot of it is down to the manner of our performances. If we'd battled hard and lost 22 games by one goal, been unlucky in defeat, all with the injuries we'd had, then fans may had looked at it with optimism for next season.
However the manner of our defeats really didn't inspire any hope. Even in the final, although a solid defensive performance, we should have walked all over that Man Utd side.
This is why I say that they way the team is set up and how it conducts itself means a great deal.
If Frank can get us playing in a manner that inspires confidence, where hard working season ticket holders can watch the team play with pride, whether in victory or defeat, then we're making advancements.
However this last season, fair play to the ST holders, because there was absolutely no confidence that we'd get a result week by week.
I understand that season ticket holders cannot switch off the Premier League. Yet I don't believe we should have walked all over United in any final, especially with three of our best creative players missing. The last European final we were in, we were never in the game, never mind leading at half time with a clean sheet - anything was progress and successful for me.
I'm not inspired that Frank can get anything better out of Danso, Dragusin, Gray, etc...
I think 'European pedigree' requires a bit of context anyway, I think managing in Europe for what Spurs are expected to do which is get out of the group I assume is achievable, it's only when you face the big boy teams in the knock outs is where you need pedigree and experience.
The problem lies in managing a team playing 1 game per week to 2 where you have no time on the training pitch in the week to work on team shape and tactics and you can't rest players for Champions League, that's the big challenge he faces.
I think PSG showed 4-3-3 is how you want to setup if you're looking to play offensive football. Back 3 is fine if we are playing on the counter or have to sit back. It might be our best tactic next season against the best teams but I hope we are working on 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 for every other game we can possibly play offensively in.
Arse still in the mindset that Wenger built a dynasty and a new manager can do the same..
I wonder if United still believe they can have a 10-20 year manager again too.
Evidence of 2 actual, longer term fans that have been fully brainwashed in the cult of Postecoglou.
His only European experience was getting tonked out of it with Celtic. But that's OK.
This is reminding me of Jenas all over again.
We aren’t though under Levy. You need to stop pretending we are, he chooses not to so we are the middle ground
He literally just won a major European trophy...
I just hope Enic don't drag this out for another 2-3 weeks in an attempt to save a couple of million quid on the compensation package! Just pay it and let the bloke get on with the task in hand of building an attractive, smart football playing squad that we see us get excited by the arrival of Saturday's and Wednesday's again!
Done deal and confirmed: Thomas Frank will be Tottenham’s new manager. Contract until
Fixed it.
We are the 9th biggest club in world football. We should always expect to start the season with the objective of winning trophies. 7th, no domestic cup and last 16 of CL is abject failure and Frank or whoever the new manager is will have to take their share of the blame. Other managers dont get to point to extenuating circumstances so why should Frank. There are no wasted seasons or projects of 5 year plans when you support an elite club. Win and win now regardless of what's happened previously.
For the record, Im not hitting Frank on his inability to win a domestic cup. With Brentford, those are hard to win. Im hitting him because hes never won anything anywhere. Didn't win with Danish youth teams, didn't win with Brondby, hasn't won with Brentford. The opposite pattern to Pep who had won everywhere before joining City. If Frank had won everywhere he's been then I could possibly be more forgiving if the first season bought nothing but he hasn't so he needs to prove to me in season one that he can win and there is only one way to do that.
What a great post...Talk about nails and heads
Hey,
Airfixx
. We need to stop pretending we're not a big club. Agree?