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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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Rebrov_Likes said:
Xavi Simons has asked to leave RB Leipzig according to The Athletic. 70m euros the price. £60m…

I dunno. I do like him and he can play LW and 10. Got a higher ceiling that Semenyo for me. Feel that we’re so worried about the PL form that we’re desperate for some players with league experience.
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I'd be worried about him as he seems to want to change clubs more or less every season- only joined Leipzig in January 2025 after being on loan with them for 18 months rom PSG (reason he gives for wating to move is Leipzig is not in CL next season !)

Before that he was as PSV for 22/23 where he shone, and before that PSG for a couple of seasons not getting many minutes, and before that Barcelona.

Seeming no interest in settling at a club, always looking to move to next big opportunity. Can Spurs guarantee to be in CL for say 3 seasons running - no ? so likely he'd be agitating for a move after 6 months.
 
bus-conductor said:
It wasn’t even great back in the day. Don’t like one dimensional strikers, especially when the one dimension isn’t absolutely stellar.

The opposite of Solanke really, who’s not fabulous at anything but is good at various stuff.

There’s some interesting strikers/fwds about this summer. For me, this guy isn’t one of them.
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We would have benefitted from a Defoe type last season. Even if it was 20-30 minute off the bench cameos.
Our inability to shoot from any kind of range made us so easy to defend against.

We missed some of these goals last season because no one would fucking shoot

View: https://youtu.be/MhVUZYvzJ_M?si=d6n8ChHQ6TwkvZlg
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
Xavi Simons has asked to leave RB Leipzig according to The Athletic. 70m euros the price. £60m…

I dunno. I do like him and he can play LW and 10. Got a higher ceiling that Semenyo for me. Feel that we’re so worried about the PL form that we’re desperate for some players with league experience.
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Love simons, fantastic player and despite injury he's coming off the back off a good season stats wise. I think he would be a great supplier to the likes of solanke and johnson.

Not sure we would be in for him now but I hope we are as 60m on simons v 70m semenyo looks favourable.

Only slight worry is if he has the power to succeed in the prem as he likes to ball carry but without having blistering pace.

Could he play on the right also?
 
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Rebrov_Likes said:
Xavi Simons has asked to leave RB Leipzig according to The Athletic. 70m euros the price. £60m…

I dunno. I do like him and he can play LW and 10. Got a higher ceiling that Semenyo for me. Feel that we’re so worried about the PL form that we’re desperate for some players with league experience.
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There's a lot of red flags for me in regards to Simons.

Definitely talented. But he refuses to settle in one place. He's forces his way out of Barcelona, PSG, PSV, PSG again, and now Leipzig. The latter less than a year after joining full time.

IF we sign him the odds are that he'll once again push to move if let's say that we don't make the 2026 CL.
 
CJJ said:
Some players really suffer under the wrong system. Soldado felt a bit like a cross between Defoe and Dele in style - as in a guy who could appear in the right places or playing in a more counter-attacking team, but under AVB we were a dull slow team that waited to play in front of the others, like Mousa Dembele personified (wanting to take on an entire team instead of just being quick and efficient). Under Tim he got ostracised. If he was in a Redknapp team, or a Mourinho team, I reckon he'd have been a 20-goal striker easily.

Defore was a bit unlucky in that he started off in an era that suited him, and then got swallowed by the 1-up-top style.
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Under AVB, Soldado and Adebayor played a lot but Soldado wasn't scoring much, and that continued at start of Sherwood's 6 month reign before he gave Kane his first PL start with Kane scoring in his first 3 starts.

When Poch took over he again started Adebayor and Soldado in PL without much success, but Kane was started in EL where he started scoring. After about 2 months, Poch brought on Mason and Kane off the bench in a league cup home tie v Notts Forest that Spurs were losing. The 3 goals to turn the tie round came from Mason, Kane and Townsend (who had started) and within weeks Adebayor, Soldado, Kaboul and Capoue were toast being replaced by Kane, Mason, Bentaleb and a CB.

I think Soldado, who had been a top scorer in Spain, neither liked PL physicality nor did Spurs have the creative players to make loads of situations for him to finish - I think few PL teams did.
 
PointToPatrik said:
There's a lot of red flags for me in regards to Simons.

Definitely talented. But he refuses to settle in one place. He's forces his way out of Barcelona, PSG, PSV, PSG again, and now Leipzig. The latter less than a year after joining full time.

IF we sign him the odds are that he'll once again push to move if let's say that we don't make the 2026 CL.
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You don't worry about shit like this when you sign players like Simons. He is a generational talent and will be fucking world class in his prime. If we get him for 2 seasons and make a healthy profit what loss is it to the club?

Don't think we will get him as he is primed for a Real/Barca level move now but if we could I certainly wouldn't be worried about tying him down for 5+ years, we'd get £100m+ for him if he moved on with plenty left on his deal so all good for the club either way.
 
JDefoe said:
Your mate may need to get with the times… he’s already agreed a move to Everton!

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Kyle Walker: Everton set to complete shock transfer for England defender from Premier League rivals Man City

Plus: Manchester United have been scouting Nice holding midfielder Hicham Boudaoui; Atletico Madrid have Aston Villas Lucas Digne as an alternative to Liverpools Andy Robertson; Napoli will not match Jack Grealishs Man City wages as they weigh up an offer for the England international
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The Sun report he has agreed... That's not the same thing.
 
PointToPatrik said:
There's a lot of red flags for me in regards to Simons.

Definitely talented. But he refuses to settle in one place. He's forces his way out of Barcelona, PSG, PSV, PSG again, and now Leipzig. The latter less than a year after joining full time.

IF we sign him the odds are that he'll once again push to move if let's say that we don't make the 2026 CL.
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I’m not sure they are red flags per say. PSG offered him a lot to poach him from Barca. Was that misguided? He was just a kid. Bad advice from agents, family, etc. Then PSG had their superstar front three and he was looking for game time to develop. He’d outgrew the Dutch league and PSV could never have afforded him. PSG didn’t seem to want to keep him. It‘s hard to tell whether he’s an impatient sort or has just been searching for a home.
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
Xavi Simons has asked to leave RB Leipzig according to The Athletic. 70m euros the price. £60m…

I dunno. I do like him and he can play LW and 10. Got a higher ceiling that Semenyo for me. Feel that we’re so worried about the PL form that we’re desperate for some players with league experience.
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Honestly, I'd be all over it. He has legitimate world class potential. In fact, I can't think of another player who is one step from making the jump to WC levels who is remotely gettable for us.

Would be a statement.

If they were prepared to pay the lump sum for Eze's release clause then he's lower risk because he knows the prem but they won't so Simons is where I'd be hoping they spend all their energy.
 
Mostly wrong said:
You don't worry about shit like this when you sign players like Simons. He is a generational talent and will be fucking world class in his prime. If we get him for 2 seasons and make a healthy profit what loss is it to the club?

Don't think we will get him as he is primed for a Real/Barca level move now but if we could I certainly wouldn't be worried about tying him down for 5+ years, we'd get £100m+ for him if he moved on with plenty left on his deal so all good for the club either way.
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You mean generational talent like Depay?

I mean, I cannot quite put my finger on it, but something does not feel right with Simons to me. I've watched him play multiple times. He clearly has some stand-out aspects to him, but overall I feel something is missing. Please, let's not forget, only leagues he has played have been Eredivise and Bundesliga. Ofc, he is still 22 so really young. But for many their potential might peak around this age.

For 60 mil EUR, sure, we could try it out. But I'm guessing he will move for bigger transfer fee and for salary in excess of 300 th kpw...
 
Rebrov_Likes said:
I’m not sure they are red flags per say. PSG offered him a lot to poach him from Barca. Was that misguided? He was just a kid. Bad advice from agents, family, etc. Then PSG had their superstar front three and he was looking for game time to develop. He’d outgrew the Dutch league and PSV could never have afforded him. PSG didn’t seem to want to keep him. It‘s hard to tell whether he’s an impatient sort or has just been searching for a home.
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To me they aren't red flags, they are green flags. Any player who doesn't want to sit on fat wages on the bench but is prepared to move for minutes is good with me. Same story with Tel. It gives me the impression they are ambitious and believe in themselves.

If they are forcing their way out of smaller clubs when they are playing by refusing to play or turn up for training that is a very different kettle of fish
 
Spursidol said:
Under AVB, Soldado and Adebayor played a lot but Soldado wasn't scoring much, and that continued at start of Sherwood's 6 month reign before he gave Kane his first PL start with Kane scoring in his first 3 starts.

When Poch took over he again started Adebayor and Soldado in PL without much success, but Kane was started in EL where he started scoring. After about 2 months, Poch brought on Mason and Kane off the bench in a league cup home tie v Notts Forest that Spurs were losing. The 3 goals to turn the tie round came from Mason, Kane and Townsend (who had started) and within weeks Adebayor, Soldado, Kaboul and Capoue were toast being replaced by Kane, Mason, Bentaleb and a CB.

I think Soldado, who had been a top scorer in Spain, neither liked PL physicality nor did Spurs have the creative players to make loads of situations for him to finish - I think few PL teams did.
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Strikers are a confidence game really - I don't think he ever really recovered from his first season. Kind of like Torres and, to a certain extent, where Werner ended up. Chelsea are quite the masters of screwing over strikers
 
I just can't see a world in which we sign Xavi Simons. Literally every big club in Europe is linked with him. We are so far down the list that I doubt Simons has even considered the idea of playing for us.

I don't like to talk us down but we are completely irrelevant when it comes to the top European clubs. We aren't even on the radar in that food chain! These links just aren't realistic.

Our best bet is to get the likes of Eze/Mbeumo/Semenyo/Baleba/Wharton from English clubs who are below us in the food chain. And even they are very hard to do now because midtable Premier League clubs are all loaded so no longer need to sell their best players. Our next best bet is using our scouting department to find value in Europe. Basically find players who aren't on the radar of the big European clubs! But the likes of Simons are out of our reach.

Cherki is a good recent example. We were linked with him for months and all the talk was about his release clause and how we are in for him. But so were all the other top clubs in Europe and I doubt his agent even entertained our phone call. We were left to ring out. We won't be signing Simons.
 
TheSpurEst said:
You mean generational talent like Depay?

I mean, I cannot quite put my finger on it, but something does not feel right with Simons to me. I've watched him play multiple times. He clearly has some stand-out aspects to him, but overall I feel something is missing. Please, let's not forget, only leagues he has played have been Eredivise and Bundesliga. Ofc, he is still 22 so really young. But for many their potential might peak around this age.

For 60 mil EUR, sure, we could try it out. But I'm guessing he will move for bigger transfer fee and for salary in excess of 300 th kpw...
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1) I think Depay could have been world class if he had avoided going to United at 21, he's very much not alone in a list of players who have gone there in their late teens/early 20s post-Fergie and had their career stall massively as a result.
2) Simons is much better than Depay was at 22. He is destined for the top, you can see it when you watch him play.
 
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