OH NO!!!!!!!
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OH NO!!!!!!!
Poch's absolutely best quality as a manager was that he could improve and develop more or less any player into a better version of themselves. Or at minimum make them into a functioning cog in a team that was superior to the sum of its parts.
Him seemingly deciding that he no longer wanted to do that is definitely a reason for his downfall with us. He was the near perfect Levy manager who could work with what he was given. Tieleman's could have been great under Poch I think for example. But alas.
If your going to call people out at least be correct in your assessment. He disappeared for a week after the final.
It might block the pathway for my 9 year old too. Don't sign Eze!
Have to disagree on that. Mbeumo (who we won't get) and Eze would drastically improve our squad.An issue the club may be facing and I agree to an extent is there’s very little value about at the moment unless you take advantage of a club in trouble. Semenyo, Mbeumo, Garnacho, Simons, Elanga - their clubs all seem to toeing the same line and valuing them all in the £60-70m bracket. It’s their right to set the fee but we’re now at the point where spending £70m will only get you an average to good player. We need improvements on what we’ve got, spending £300m on 4 good players both won’t drastically improve our squad and will put us in potential financial difficulties (by that I mean it will curb our future budgets and put us in strife if any of them flop).
If the darkside get Eze it’s bad for us. No movement at all for new signings,the other clubs are getting in early and that piece of crap
Agreed....he's an out and out gooner albeit a talented one and I've seen enough of their ilk come and go so it's a swipe left (in the bin) for me
I do find it strange , you know my views on Levy and ENIC but nothing could stop me coming on here almost delirious with joy for about a week after we won the EL .John Thomas is still actually missing, some bellend called Tottenham Massive seems to have turned up in his place though
Since the final weirdly enough...
If you're NFI, WTF did you ask how I knew for, I'm also a Tottenham Hotspur ST holder so what? Of course it matters it demonstrates where their loyalty lies and human nature will plays its part in their decision to choose where their future lies if the choice is between the 2 clubs....and *cough* money of course.I'm a Tottenham season ticket holder and I have NFI who our players grew up supporting.
Nor does it always matter as their support is often different to us because most never play for "their" club.
David Bentley was interesting. Said he happily supports both.
Darren Bent is not so interesting. Unsure why on earth he signed for us when he's clearly 100% gooner.
They are mistaken.....as they were about Bent.
I do find it strange , you know my views on Levy and ENIC but nothing could stop me coming on here almost delirious with joy for about a week after we won the EL .
You can be in the Levy has delivered camp , or like me we have won in spite of Levy camp but surely the euphoria should be the same at the end result . The how or why we achieved it really is still not an issue that should tarnish the winning after such a long wait .
I am still chuffed to bits and it’s over a month now
Poch's absolutely best quality as a manager was that he could improve and develop more or less any player into a better version of themselves. Or at minimum make them into a functioning cog in a team that was superior to the sum of its parts.
Him seemingly deciding that he no longer wanted to do that is definitely a reason for his downfall with us. He was the near perfect Levy manager who could work with what he was given. Tieleman's could have been great under Poch I think for example. But alas.
My point was just because you have family that are Palace fans, doesn't mean they know anymore than anyone else.If you're NFI, WTF did you ask how I knew for, I'm also a Tottenham Hotspur ST holder so what? Of course it matters it demonstrates where their loyalty lies and human nature will plays its part in their decision to choose where their future lies if the choice is between the 2 clubs....and *cough* money of course.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I can't see how more agreeable (if reports are correct) the conditions of sale can get, with Palace accepting staggered payments. Over 2-3 seasons?He may well do, we may miss out
But we'll take the risk leaving it deep into the window to try and improve the terms in our favour.
A large part of ENICs strategy
Poch had the perfect storm with us. We had a generational team which he deserves credit for creating but he himself has been exposed as a manager since then.I think the problem with Poch is that he needs young, fit players, who absolutely do what he says for his football to thrive.
We had the youngest average age in the PL when we were at our best IIRC.
I often felt his comment about the "painful rebuild" was not what people thought it was. He likely knew that by 2019 players had reached peak age and grown ego's and maybe weren't buying into the intensity he wanted. I would say that probably even included the big names like Kane, Son, Eriksen, Toby & Jan by that stage.
I'm not sure if Poch even knew that was his problem though. He maybe thought he could get any player to run through walls and "like attack dogs" I think the quote was.
Probably didn't realise Ndomble wasn't gonna do that and the other two he wanted were made of glass.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I can't see how more agreeable (if reports are correct) the conditions of sale can get, with Palace accepting staggered payments. Over 2-3 seasons?
Poch had the perfect storm with us. We had a generational team which he deserves credit for creating but he himself has been exposed as a manager since then.
The people did.....as did other forums such as VS etc forever denying his allegiance whilst at the same time making the point it didn't make any difference so long as he did the business, which is a valid one tbf.People here thought Bent was a Spurs fan?
How do you even know that? .....This place didn't exist back then.