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ginola92 said:
This “cheating and sports washing” results in trophies and little punishment I don’t think either fanbase give a fuck about fake morality from other billion pound corporations.
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It's not about fake morality... It shouldn't have been allowed and everyone suffered as a result.

ginola92 said:
Also enter an unprecedented dry trophy spell resulting in 2 trophies in 25 years.
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Well yeh.... Which conicides with the shitty fkn petro-murder-ball era.

Note: since CFC & MC's cheating shat all over our league:

Man U - 13 years and counting since their last EPL title.
AFC - 22 years and counting since their last EPL title.
LFC - It took them 20 years after Abramovic arrived to win their first league title in 30 years.
 
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Tottenham Massive said:
He's the most obvious troll on the forum. And there's some serious competition.
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Hi JOHN THOMAS

Care to explain why you vanished around the time we won a major trophy and when you returned you posted fuck all about it?

We are still waiting for your explanation.

Mr Bean Waiting GIF by MOODMAN
 
Hearing (well, reading) that Spurs have shown an interest in Noah Edjouma, some 19yo forward from Toulouse. Scored 2 goals in 10 games last season. Valued at less than 1mil and wages would be like 10k pw tops.

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Richard Arlison said:
We were also much more regular trophy winners, 1 or 2 per decade.

Personally being in the big 6 means absolutely fuck all to me so I'm not measuring that as success.
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This is always such a stupid dichotomy because it acts like it’s some kind of deliberate decision to either aim for top 6 or aim for trophies. But what makes you most likely to win trophies is having a squad that is regularly competitive in the Premier League and routinely playing in Europe. “Being in the big six” dramatically increases our chances of winning a cup because it makes us richer and makes us a more enticing destination for higher caliber players. Aiming for 11th place as long as it comes with the odd League Cup once a decade isn’t a good strategy unless your goal is to be West Ham.
 
Airfixx said:
I actually agree with most of this.....

The only part I'd contest is the 2015-ish cut-off point.....

The fact is that between 2016 and 2019 we were more competitive than at any point since the early 80s despite having little money to spend on players whilst we built the stadium; and we didn't have to sell our star players to keep afloat (unlike what happened to the scum when they built the new death star*).

To deny the Poch era (proper league challenges, great players, great football and CL final) AND the new stadium itself as positives of the ENIC-era would be entirely flawed.

Is Levy yesterday's man? I also think that's fair.

As I said in relation to his 'We want to win the league" comments...... I think he just thinks "My model got us close to the EPL & CL with Poch... We can do that again". The odds are he'll be proved wrong about that, but it doesn't mean it was some devious statement intended to dupe fans into thinking we'd blow 200, 300, 400million this summer.

.......The latter interpretation (which I'm not attributing to you, Sir AC) is just disingenuous, forum-politicking BS from the typical suspects of TFC.



(*Notably it took 20 years for them to get back to mounting legit title challenges.)
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There was a period where Levy's market acumen was actually a driving force in improving the club, but you'd probably set the end date for that at more like 2011ish.

Levy became chairman in February 2001 with the club in the bottom half of the table, having not finished better than 10th since 1996. In February 2011 we beat Milan at the San Siro in the knockout stages of the Champions League, with a fantastic squad of players purchased through Levy's revenue generating ability and dealmaking nous.

By February 2021, despite having produced one of the best players in the history of the club for free via the academy, we were back in 9th with the squad in an inexorable tailspin.

"Yesterday's man" is exactly it. Particularly in that 2004-2010 range he really strengthened the club, but that is a lifetime ago in terms of the sophistication of the football business.
 
FightingIllini said:
There was a period where Levy's market acumen was actually a driving force in improving the club, but you'd probably set the end date for that at more like 2011ish.

Levy became chairman in February 2001 with the club in the bottom half of the table, having not finished better than 10th since 1996. In February 2011 we beat Milan at the San Siro in the knockout stages of the Champions League, with a fantastic squad of players purchased through Levy's revenue generating ability and dealmaking nous.

By February 2021, despite having produced one of the best players in the history of the club for free via the academy, we were back in 9th with the squad in an inexorable tailspin.

"Yesterday's man" is exactly it.
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Probably why Charrington is now around. He is the guy apparently who is Joe Lewis’s fix it man, the person when you want to shake things up. Someone like that isn’t sitting on our board now to eat cheese and drink wine.
 
WPHIII said:
This is always such a stupid dichotomy because it acts like it’s some kind of deliberate decision to either aim for top 6 or aim for trophies. But what makes you most likely to win trophies is having a squad that is regularly competitive in the Premier League and routinely playing in Europe. “Being in the big six” dramatically increases our chances of winning a cup because it makes us richer and makes us a more enticing destination for higher caliber players. Aiming for 11th place as long as it comes with the odd League Cup once a decade isn’t a good strategy unless your goal is to be West Ham.
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Hasn’t worked that way for us.

We’ve built squads good enough to challenge for top 6 OR go deep in cups. Never a squad deep enough for both. Mainly because cups aren’t financially worth it for ENIC
 
FightingIllini said:
Every last penny is the fans, we ARE the game in the literal, concrete, irrevocable sense.
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Well, in that sense "we are Coca-Cola" as well. "We are Apple". "We are Amazon".

That's how business works.

Football was sold generations ago - when the first advertising hoarding next to the pitch was sold, we started this journey. And really, back when the concept of "professional" football was created, really. The reality is supporters are just consumers. We think it should be different...but its really not.
 
Ionman34 said:
Not any more we're not. You think that Chelsea, then Man City, hoovered up trophies because of their fanbase?

The game is the plaything of Billionaires and corporations now, us fans are just a small part of it.

Al Hilal have an average attendance of around 15,000, yet they spend millions on buying players, then pay them millions more in wages. The fans are superfluous to them. Newcastle have a fanbase more or less isolated to their city, you can get a season ticket there for £362! You think they spend based on what they make from their fans?

Football is now just the new Gladiator sport, used by the wealthy to keep the mob in line. Other than that, fans are largely irrelevant.
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I take your point that the sole revenue generated by ticket and merchandise buying fans is a small percentage of monies generated, but fans being largely irrelevant, no!
The minute fans stop attending games to the level we see now, is the minute the game dies. No more tv rights, no more advertising rights, little media interest, just empty stadia and the end!
 
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