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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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CJJ said:
Erm.. you're saying this on a forum dominated by people absolutely determined to make the fans say nothing positive about the club, based purely on who owns it. The current ownership doesn't bother me - the fact that people seem to yearn for worse ownership is more of the issue (we've been there, and arguably have never had better).

Regardless, coming onto a Tottenham Hotspur forum asking me to care more about something else that is going on in the world is an irrelevancy. Like when people ask why the local shop isn't open on the facebook group and people say "There's a war in Ukraine, it hardly matters whether the shop is open or not".

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Fucking ell, the irony of the first and second sentence and the guy who liked your post. There's no hope

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This forum isn't 'dominanted'by anyone. That you think it is and are busy digging out strangers speaks far more clearly about the total lack of proportion in your relationship with the club and the forum, evident in your ramblings about people that haven't been in football in decades.

As for your strange certainty that only worse owners are possible than Levy and Lewis that just irrational. In fact it's starting to sound like Stockholm syndrome. As for coming on to a Tottenham forum and asking you to stick to actual transfers talk thats not illogical, ramblings about the dangers of Irving fucking Scholar in 2025 is damn weird. If you need something worthy of concern I simply offered you something morally justifiable. Even for you that shouldn't be difficult to understand.

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THFCxDUFC said:
Fair enough, the Glazers were a bad example to use. The point remains that ours aren’t exactly miles better when they’re only putting in an average of £5m a season of their own money. That probably only covers the wages of 2 Archie Grays.
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I'm fine with the club being self sufficient instead of relying on outside funding. If the club only uses money that it generates itself then it's sustainable and much less subject to the whims of a billionaire owner. However, there's room to spend more of the money that the club makes to bolster the squad as we have one of the lowest (the lowest?) wage to revenue ratios in the league, without ENIC needing to contribute a penny. Would love to see more of the kids coming through though, our club-trained situation is dire and it makes the club feel a little soulless in my opinion, so any acquisitions should be ones that won't block those pathways. I get that people want to win now, but I'm personally not a huge fan of the mercenary approach and hope that's one area that Frank will be able to improve us.

I think those squares could be circled by only signing top class players (assuming they'd be willing to come) in positions where we're truly lacking, rather than opportunistic punts that are no better than what we have in our own academy - i.e. no need for a Veliz when you have a Scarlett not getting any chances, etc. An approach that's ambitious, but measured, if you like with a focus on quality and need over quantity and opportunism
 
r-u-s-x said:
Whats that got to do with what i said?
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r-u-s-x said:
No other teams fans will, i dont remember if City have deserved all their league cups. Let scum fans celebrate second place and performance, dont sweat it.
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The difference between them and us, is they don't win a cup once every 17 years and finish 17th. They win cups AND titles and there's zero fucking debate whether they "deserve" it.


*financial doping aside
 
bus-conductor said:
THFCxDUFC

The Glazers also leveraged the club to actually buy it. In other words they didn’t put a penny of their own money to buy the club they borrowed against the value of the club to buy the club, and put that debt onto the club.

And have subsequently taken huge dividends and salaries from the club ever since.
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Plenty of stories that ENIC do this on NON Spurs property business.
IE, they have their other business interests and use THFC market value to secure loans to complete them and that's where their real money comes from. The more valuable we are, the higher the loans they can secure elsewhere.

99.9999% of the time Spurs will never see any form of consequences of that. But if they ever get something horribly wrong and owe money, where will it come from?
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
This forum isn't 'dominanted'by anyone. That you think it is and are busy digging out strangers speaks far more clearly about the total lack of proportion in your relationship with the club and the forum, evident in your ramblings about people that haven't been in football in decades.
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There's no sense of awareness in your posts is there?

If it isn't John Thomas celebrating posts ironically that say "don't bother posting if the owners bother you", it's you "digging out strangers" by, well, "digging out" a "stranger"
 
gajt said:
However, there's room to spend more of the money that the club makes to bolster the squad as we have one of the lowest (the lowest?) wage to revenue ratios in the league, without ENIC needing to contribute a penny
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This is the problem with talking about "revenue" as financial margins. Revenue is money coming in - it isn't spare money or profit. Both Real Madrid and Spurs have a <50% revenue-to-wages percentage because both have over £1bn of stadium debt to finance.

The club has not made a profit for years, possibly since the new stadium opened. I don't believe there is room to spend more, without spending less on actual transfers
 
Obviously way too early to be overreacting and I've clearly been overreacting all week, but it all goes back to my initial fear. Frank wasn't brought in to win.

I was very underwhelmed by the appointment but like anything, the Spurs PR machine made me think Frank could be the real deal and maybe my initial concerns were wrong. But given the lack of urgency in the transfer market (I know its only June but we've basically just allowed Mbeumo and Eze pass by without making any real effort), I'm now worried that Frank is just happy with the current squad. He sees it as far better than any squad he's ever had with Brentford and is confident he can finish top 7 with us if we bin off the cups and only focus on the league. Levy is in his ear about developing our young talent so that's where much of his focus is too.

Now this could be a great strategy long term. We might even see Donley and Moore playing regularly next season. But for now, this shows a total lack of ambition and was my worry with us hiring Frank all along. I don't feel like he's been hired to win. If it is a long term project then we back him and just put up with all the short term struggles. However, it's just very underwhelming going into a season when it feel like the club have just accepted we are at least 3 years away from being competitive.
 
yes said:
The thing that's most irritating is how we have never, ever pulled the trigger on a top player.

Liverpool do a similar thing to us where they will buy young talented players with potential but every now and then when they need to, they'll pull the trigger on a Van Dijk, a Diaz, an Allison or a Wirtz.

They have fucked up the occasional big money transfer like we have but they don't shit the bed and revert back to exclusively signing kids with potential and "bargains" like we do.

Our recruitment is absolute dogshit and I wonder how many times the club are going to end up with shit on their faces before they realise that they need to change tact (spoiler, it is never going to happen).
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Just with the first two there - Van Dijk wasn't a "top player" at the time. He was arguably putting in the same performances as Toby for Southampton, who we nabbed, and only reason why he wasn't a £75m transfer was because they fucked up the option on him.

We also went for Diaz didn't we. I recall it was Mendes who screwed us on that. It's easy to say we've never pulled the trigger on a top player, but in a slightly different timeline Richarlison goes to a top 4 rival and doesn't get injured, and he's one of the "spurs never pay top money" examples. I don't know why we ignore Romero and Van der Ven when making comparisons either.
 
Richard Arlison said:
The PL will never do anything serious about City or Chelsea or any other club that “cheats” to bring better players into the league.

They love them because they bring new Star attractions every year. And in fairness they should love them for that. The PLs priority isn’t to be “fair” it’s to make money
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Bloody hell. The point was in 10 years no one cares about performance but only who won
 
CJJ said:
Just with the first two there - Van Dijk wasn't a "top player" at the time. He was arguably putting in the same performances as Toby for Southampton, who we nabbed, and only reason why he wasn't a £75m transfer was because they fucked up the option on him.

We also went for Diaz didn't we. I recall it was Mendes who screwed us on that. It's easy to say we've never pulled the trigger on a top player, but in a slightly different timeline Richarlison goes to a top 4 rival and doesn't get injured, and he's one of the "spurs never pay top money" examples. I don't know why we ignore Romero and Van der Ven when making comparisons either.
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So many excuses. Everytime an excuse. Doesn't change the fact that it hasn't happened.
 
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