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Transfers The Summer Transfer Thread 2025

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Richard Splash said:
It was built on a 10 game run right at the start where no team had a clue how to play against us. As soon as we were found out we plummeted.
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It's absolutely shocking how few people still can't see this!
It's not even just about "Angeball" getting found out. It's also about players visibly regressing over time due to poor training and tactics that leave them exposed all the time.
The longer it went on the worse we would have got and eventually it would have been relegation.
 
Richard Splash said:
It was built on a 10 game run right at the start where no team had a clue how to play against us. As soon as we were found out we plummeted.

My expectations for Frank this season are 5-7th with the squad he has today. My biggest concern is CM, we look very weak in that position whereas Ange in that first year still had PEH and a Bissouma that could give a fuck. We need to buy him a CM
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I have no doubt whatsoever that there'll be an instant improvement in how we play under Frank. It might be a lot more defensive but at least we won't have 10 clowns running around the pitch like it's schoolyard footie.
 
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PapeMasterclass said:
Good player at a small club where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, show up or not if he feels like and with no real pressure and expectations. There is every chance that he will fail at a bigger club and in a different system, let's hope that will be the case if he joins Woolwich.
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You know, deep down, he's going to do well wherever he ends up at. Cause it ain't us.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Not really.

If he’s not finished top 5 and won a trophy after 2 seasons, he will have been objectively worse.

If it’s been 2 top 6 finishes, there is maybe a case that he’s building something solid that could be better but his first 2 seasons will have been worse.

Top 8 this season should and will have Frank in the hot seat. Especially if there is a good option available.
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What if he wins the Super cup, finishes 11th the first season and then 5th the second season - he will have delivered the trophy, matched Ange’s highest finish whilst also not finishing as low as 17th
 
Richard Splash said:
He had 2 goals and 0 assists in 33 Prem games - I don’t know what people see in this lad. Would cost £50m plus. Tel had 2 goals and an assist in 13 games for us.

I would be livid if we stumped that up for him rather than £10-£15m more for proven quality
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I wasn’t really judging him on stats. More on his ability, taking the ball, playing on the turn, composure, holding players off, got something definitely. I wouldn’t be expecting him to have great goals and assists playing in the premier league for Southampton anyway.

Goals and assists is a by product of how a team functions, we should be more concerned about that to start with. We need to look after the ball better, we need to transition through the pitch better. We need better ball retention in the final third. All things I think he is or will be very strong on.
 
Matt1882 said:
You know, deep down, he's going to do well wherever he ends up at. Cause it ain't us.
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No, what we do know is that a 27 year old doing good at a small club where he is 'the man' doesn't necessarily mean that he will do well when he goes to a big club where the expectations of him as a player and the pressure in general are completely different. We've all seen it before many times.

Same with Cunha at United or Kudus if he joins us.
 
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Richard Splash said:
What if he wins the Super cup, finishes 11th the first season and then 5th the second season - he will have delivered the trophy, matched Ange’s highest finish whilst also not finishing as low as 17th
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I think if anything, this season has just proven that league position is the only metric that managers get judged on. Winning trophies is just a bonus but not the important metric.

Owners want consistency and a guarantee that the income and cashflow keeps coming in at a consistent rate. Finishing top 7 in the league regularly and qualifying for Europe most years is all our owners want. The league position is all Frank will be judged on. Very easy to just say we were unlucky in the cups without really trying! While you can't hide your league position.

Ange proved all this. He binned off the league to target a trophy and he got sacked for it and most people on here don't rate him as a good manager now. League position is all that matters anymore apparently.
 
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