Dude, he played for the 2nd worst team in PL history.
It's hard to look good there.
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It's hard to look good there.
If we finished 2nd on goal difference and lost on penalties in the CL final, many cultists will say Ange did better.
You know, deep down, he's going to do well wherever he ends up at. Cause it ain't us.
The way you talk about players that have won us the first decent trophy we've won this century is disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself. The fact you then big up average players like Szoboszlas does make me wonder who the fuck you support
Yeah right , like you never wanted the GOAT
What if he wins the Super cup, finishes 11th the first season and then 5th the second season - he will have delivered the trophy, matched Ange’s highest finish whilst also not finishing as low as 17th
Wonder will we still let his family have a box to themselves in our stadium when Woolwich play us? Madness how much groundwork we did on him only for him to join our rivals.
I wasn’t really judging him on stats. More on his ability, taking the ball, playing on the turn, composure, holding players off, got something definitely. I wouldn’t be expecting him to have great goals and assists playing in the premier league for Southampton anyway.
Goals and assists is a by product of how a team functions, we should be more concerned about that to start with. We need to look after the ball better, we need to transition through the pitch better. We need better ball retention in the final third. All things I think he is or will be very strong on.
No, what we do know is that a 27 year old doing good at a small club where he is 'the man' doesn't necessarily mean that he will do well when he goes to a big club where the expectations of him as a player and the pressure in general are completely different. We've all seen it before many times.
Same with Cunha at United or Kudus if he joins us.
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I think if anything, this season has just proven that league position is the only metric that managers get judged on. Winning trophies is just a bonus but not the important metric.
Owners want consistency and a guarantee that the income and cashflow keeps coming in at a consistent rate. Finishing top 7 in the league regularly and qualifying for Europe most years is all our owners want. The league position is all Frank will be judged on. Very easy to just say we were unlucky in the cups without really trying! While you can't hide your league position.
Ange proved all this. He binned off the league to target a trophy and he got sacked for it and most people on here don't rate him as a good manager now. League position is all that matters anymore apparently.
Sure but I just haven’t seen anything from the lad that is impressive - he wasn’t in the U21’s or U19’s for England either.
We can’t be dropping £50m on this guy when the likes of Eze are £60m - that is proper pants around the ankles stuff
Who have we not signed today?
Yeah who wants quality footballers.
Yeah the best managers do both, Howe won a league cup and qualified for CL, Chelsea did similar and Villa made CL QF, FA cup SF and finished 6th.
What Villa did is what I’m wanting to see with Frank, battling for CL football via the league whilst making a good fist of things in the cups - we will likely fall short, we usually do, but the win this year means with the cup runs over the next couple of years that hope will be there that our names on the cup.
Fair enough. When I watched us against Southampton it was Mateus Fernandes that stood out for me - he will be the best player in the Championship next year unless snapped up this summer and he is only 20
Winning football matches is what matters. The manner and frequency of any defeats can also become an issue.
If Ange had accumulated 55 - 65 league points, along with the Europa League win; he keeps his job.
22 league defeats, some in an abysmal manner, undermined Ange's credibility to the point where only a minority of people still believed in the project.
I'm not enthused with Thomas Frank but I do think what he achieves this season with Spurs will tell us how good / bad Ange was.
I fully expect Frank to get more out of what Spurs currently have available than Ange was able to.
That's a good point actually. I believe that Liverpool didn't buy anyone last Summer, then brought in Mamardashvilli and Chiesa in January?
Obviously, they had a more complete squad then, but they still kept their powder dry and allowed Slott to assess over the course of the season.
The standout difference is that now that they are moving in the market, they're shopping in the top tier. Being Prem Champions is obviously a huge help there though.
Mate no ones hijacking that deal. He’s shit. No serious club will be in for him.