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_mehstg said:
Come on

Lamela was a cult hero in the end and gave good service to the club. Yes, he never lived up to his potential but I would take him in this squad tomorrow...
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The only one I would make a case for, from the M7, was Chadli.

If you look at his numbers he was as good as Kulu.

We should have kept him and sold Lamela.

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dudu said:
Literally all sold to one of the top 2 teams on the planet at the time of sale, bar Keane who was also not at his peak...

It sounds like you were expecting Levy to have us competing with United and Real Madrid at the time of these players sales which quite frankly, is delusional.

You're also focusing more on the fact we sold them, than even had them in the first place, which shows a massive, massive bias.

Erisken,
Verts
Toby
Lloris
Dembele
Son

all kept past their peak
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All of these reponses were to my assertion that Daniel Levy sold all the best players that THFC either bought or produced; during his time as chairman (with the exception of Ledley King who no buying club would ever have been able to insure).

Not one person has actually disagreed with what I said or put forward any valid reason for this statement of fact to be regarded as a statement of truth regarding the best paid chairman the Premier League has ever had.

What some people are attempting to do is to retrospectively justify the sales of THFC's best players by the man who was recently sacked for being rubbish at his job.

Genuine Spurs supporters should all agree to no longer accept the sale of the clubs best players going forward.

We've got rid of Levy and now we need to be rid of his methods.

Forever.

Spurs can be as big as anyone in the Premier League.
 
Kosher Kid said:
On this matter you were correct.
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I can't find the specific thing that triggered it, but this was my point at the time:

Ex-Spurs Player - Hugo Lloris

Casillas looks to be on the goalkeeper scrapheap at 32, so that doesn't apply. Neuer is the same age as Lloris, so doesn't apply. Buffon is the only one who might apply considering the context - something tells me you've either not read or not understood what I was saying I think it's...
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CJJ said:
I'll have to nudge you in the right direction then, as I don't think you did understand my point.

My point was that a goalkeeper normally keeps improving until their mid 30's and beyond, so considering how crappy Friedel and James seemed in their 20's at Liverpool, they both improved massively later in their careers, beyond a point where any outfield player would peak. Neuer doesn't come into the equation as he's not evidence of a goalkeeper being massively better in their 30's than 20s. Nor is Casillas.

So point being is that Lloris is playing solidly now, so by the time he is in his 30's (if he avoid a Cech type injury) he should be up there amongst the all timers.

So really the point is that he's very good for a player that is technically at the lower end of the expected development age.
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that was 11 and a half years ago. Whether I was correct in the projection that Lloris is "amongst the all timers" might have been a bit of an overshoot, but at 25/26 I didn't think he was quite ready to be starting ahead of a (imo) reliable friedel who had a consecutive game record on the go
 
The critique of Levy stands up when it comes to the period after the move into the new stadium, and after the uncertainties of Covid were behind us.

First, yes, he successfully 'future proofed' through developing non-football revenue to make up for lack of CL qualification; but this was done at the expense of the core business aiming at football success.

Second, he thought he could get more bang for buck out of a relatively low wage bill by hiring 'winners' like Mourinho and Conte. They were spectacular fails in the end.

We'll see how well the Lewis family do, but they should move away from the low wages policy for sure.
 
Harrier said:
Players get bought and sold by all clubs, it happens. Deal with it!

Players often want to move on from clubs and when they’ve made their mind up there’s little more you can do but to extract the maximum fee possible eg Isak.

Liverpool sold Coutinho for a huge amount and reinvested it into a world class keeper and centre back which moved them on.

When we sold Bale we bought more misses than hits.

Where we have been poor recently is recruitment where we have spunked huge amounts on mediocre players.

Your argument is very one sided, the same as Kosher Kid Kosher Kid
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I'm not weighing in one way or another. One person was talking about great players being sold and not adequately replaced, the user I responded to listed players that were sold well past their primes (which is good business by the club), which is different.

I don't even have an argument for you to be so upset at. I stated a fact. If you want to dispute that, feel free.
 
Papafeels said:
I'm not weighing in one way or another. One person was talking about great players being sold and not adequately replaced, the user I responded to listed players that were sold well past their primes (which is good business by the club), which is different.

I don't even have an argument for you to be so upset at. I stated a fact. If you want to dispute that, feel free.
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Don't take it to heart brother.

They're still a bit sensitive about Daniel.
 
dudu said:
Literally all sold to one of the top 2 teams on the planet at the time of sale, bar Keane who was also not at his peak...

It sounds like you were expecting Levy to have us competing with United and Real Madrid at the time of these players sales which quite frankly, is delusional.

You're also focusing more on the fact we sold them, than even had them in the first place, which shows a massive, massive bias.

Erisken,
Verts
Toby
Lloris
Dembele
Son

all kept past their peak
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Again, I'm not debating one way or another. I was replying to someone that listed very over the hill players who should've been moved on, which is good business. I was merely pointing to the players that first poster was referencing.
 
CJJ said:
I think that's every club's strategy. People just don't 'see' the same things at other teams. There are very few teams who haven't had a reasonably moderate hit rate in their transfers.
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Not really. Other teams will try and buy the best player they can to replace their best outgoing player. We buy 3 or 4 cheap punts, who rot at the club for years. There's been a shift this summer for the most part, but the Bale money is a prime example. Even replacing Kane with feckin Solanke is a clear example of that. There were much better players on the market available, one of which replaced Solanke ffs.
 
I read there that Netflix are in talks to get the tv rights to the CL for, I think £4.4bn and that the streaming giants are going for the PL next.

Someone on Reddit has suggested that this is probably why the Lewis's aren't selling. It's going to drive the valuation of clubs up vastly. So it makes sense that they hold in the short term.
 
Papafeels said:
I read there that Netflix are in talks to get the tv rights to the CL for, I think £4.4bn and that the streaming giants are going for the PL next.

Someone on Reddit has suggested that this is probably why the Lewis's aren't selling. It's going to drive the valuation of clubs up vastly. So it makes sense that they hold in the short term.
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Also makes sense as to why US owners are investing

I can’t work out the business case on Boehly’s spending so it must be a long term pay-out based on something like this sending values sky high
 
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