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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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Brian Fantana said:
I was happy we sacked Ange. I was happy that they gave Frank a try. I believed he would be able to change up to manage us. I’d seen how Brentford attacked and thought he’d do it with better players. But it’s been building that he can’t do it. He’s been hamstrung by injuries and players who I think haven’t been having him from the start. I expect lots of them wanted to keep Ange and weren’t going to have the next bloke. But some of the coaching has been poor. We don’t attack effectively, don’t press as one and the effort levels are pathetic. If a manager can’t get the players to improve those three things by now then they never will.

He hasn’t been good enough, but I don’t hate him like I’ve hated other managers of ours by the time they’ve left. He’s just not the right man for the job. Those who appointed him need to go to.

He and them have let us all down.
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I actually wonder if coming directly after a manager like Ange is part of the reason Frank's found it so hard.

For all of Ange's faults, he told the players to dream big and aim for the stars. Some might see him as a charlatan, but the man was a gifted orator and the way the players reacted to his departure showed be made a huge impression on them (even if last season was largely wank).

Imagine going from that idealism and dreaming of greatness straight to "John the Pragmatist" Frank, a man who basically told them to accept losses from minute one and has talked the club down at every opportunity while instilling a dull, uninspired style of play.

I wouldn't be surprised if half the dressing room were just like "wtf is this shit?". They seemed to buy in at the very start but you get the sense they've not really been having Frank for a while now.

I reckon when Frank does go it's gonna be a funereal silence from the players on social media barring a few short token messages (probably from their media managers).
 
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I hate this sympathy bollocks.

Mans about to walk away with more money than any of us will make in our lifetimes after doing the job of our dreams for a few months!

Was underwhelmed at the time, got excited after the first month, thought he was bob on - and then slowly faded back into that absolute nothing feeling of ‘here we go again’

I thought a month ago we’d seen all we needed. I don’t get what keeping him any longer than that did.

Convinced this is the end. I suspect they are trying to put a succession plan in place now.

I know it divides everyone, but just announce that Poch will be back for the 2026/27 season and give it to Mason or someone as caretaker.
 
_mehstg said:
There are 100 people on this forum that want Frank to stay. Must be rival fans surely???
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I don't "want" him to stay - I just don't see a viable alternative right now. 🤷‍♂️

Ever since Conte left I've been clear that I don't want a manager sacked unless they a) have us in a relegation battle or b) lose the dressing room.

I'm two games away from knowing for certain if one or both of those criteria have been met. 😭
 
Timberwolf said:
I mean fair play to anyone that was anti-Frank from the start but I think even the most staunch detractors must be surprised at how awfully he's done.

I think the board have got it wrong, and it's basically the exact same mistake they made with Nuno, but I can also see how they convinced themselves Frank would be a solid appointment. Like, even if you remove the fact the football is awful, I think most people felt he'd be a pretty safe pair of hands and steer us to at least 7th or 8th.

Almost all managerial appointments are, ultimately a punt and it's kind of amazing just how bad Frank has managed to fail on pretty much every level.

- We thought he would be popular and likeable. He's been weak and the players don't respect him.

- We thought he would improve players. He's made them worse.

- We thought he'd play at least vaguely attractive football. It's been utter dross.

- We thought he'd be fine with the press. He's been a terrible figurehead and made countless gaffes.

I think about the only thing he's done well is player rotation, but even that's been to our detriment when we've lost momentum in key games due to pre-planned subs...

We've truly rolled snake eyes with Frank. It's gone as badly as it possibly could've.
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Not me. I knew this was a shocking hire. Low ceiling (10th) high floor (14th). The one thing I was shocked about was how awful his football. I knew he was a pragmatic, no risk scandiball coach but its genuinely worse than anything I've seen. The players are not helping but it starts and finishes with Frank and hopefully it finishes today.

I'm not one to say I told you so... but....

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Remember that image in pre season?

Frank in the training ground, schedule on the wall behind him "10am long tnrow competition"

Ultimate redflag tnere, was doomed from tne beginning
 
With the teams we got to play coming up soon I really don't understand what the debate is in sacking him. Because if we get a good hiding in those games it's only going to be worse for everyone
 
Should at least get the Alonso bit done, offer him a big wage and the full transfer kitty and get a yes or no soon as possible. If it’s a no at least get it out of the way, if it’s a yes then we have to move like lightening.
 
Crockett said:
Heitinga is from the Ajax school of football. That is high press and a high line, move the ball quickly between players in constant movement. He can't work with Frank, he must be a replacement. What else could explain appointing him?
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Well apparently he was Frank's choice and he personally interviewed him in December. We did need a coach to replace Matt Wells so makes sense to bring someone in.

I think the timing is a coincidence tbh. The board probably thought with these easy fixtures Frank would get us to around 35 pts and could ride out the season.

Honestly don't think this board are smart or calculating enough to purposefully bring in someone like Heitinga as a preemptive interim. They'd probably never even heard of the guy.

Also by the sounds of it Heitinga was meant to be our defensive coach anyway (he's a CB after all) so I'm not sure his personal footballing philosophy counts for much, not that I can claim to have ever watched his Ajax sides. Plus Frank keeps claiming his long term goal is to play more attractive football anyway so maybe he felt Heitinga could help with that.
 
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