Going from Nuno to Ange, a full 180° managerial style, with no preseason, and players built for Nuno ball, was always going to be a fucking disaster.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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But he took the job anyway, says it all really.
This thread is going to be fun after part two of his appearance on the overlap is broadcast.
I think it was a bit both. A cluster-fuck born out of a piss port backing of a manager yet, and a piss poor manager who fucked up on a weekly basis.
Both should be condemned equal... And piss poor players too...
Ahh yes, I remember the time that Alyson got elected spokesperson for the entire world's football media.
Both articles are correct.
Perhaps he has got too much mullah?
I'm sorry but I think you're being blinded by patriotism on Ange.
Had nearly half a billion euros invested for him in the transfer market (€460m+ from memory). That's just two seasons. Making him our most backed manager in history.
Was undefeated in his first 10 league games culminating in 3 successive MOTM awards. But from then on his football was snuffed out. Clubs worked out how to beat us, and needing 3 goals just to secure a point was not sustainable.
Boiled down to one salient statistic he just had to be sacked. We lost 34 of his last 66 league games. Tottenham Hotspur... Losing more than 1 in 2 games is absolutely abysmal.
ENIC wasn't Ange's issue. They backed him.
Being incapable of avoiding defeat and having no plans b was his issue.
One of the most deserving sackings we've ever had.
And this is a man who gave both of us a confederation trophy with the national team... Our sad excuse for a national team. But we cannot escape the reality of Ange at Tottenham.
I’ll say this again. I was Ange out. From probably May 2024 when the wheels fell off a second time.
Forest did not have the squad to play how Ange wanted. We signed players specifically for him (we can debate their quality) but in that first window he was bought a lot.
At Forest he was parachuted in to a defensive, counter attacking cohort of players with no preseason. And expected to completely change the way they played.
We will never know how season 3 would have gone here, with a fit Micky and Romero probably somewhat better than Frank, but realistically we may have been around the same. But beating him with a Forest stint that he was ill prepared for and not adequately supported with isn’t the one.
I’m not necessarily saying that’s how I think, I’m saying it’s a possibility that’s how some fans think: ‘I think the Forest thing is used as an insight as to what ‘Season 3’ of Ange would likely have had in store for us, when some fans say he deserved to be kept on.’
I didn’t pay huge attention to the Forest thing at the time, but as you mention I thought it was a daft departure to completely change footballing philosophy mid-season and Ange was similarly stubborn in his approach. Nuno also seemed to be popular with his squad which Ange never seemed to replicate.
The league position and results were the reason why I wanted Ange gone and I’d backed him longer than a lot of others, similar to what I did with Frank.
Although the Europa was amazing I’m not blinkered enough to know that the competition in Europe is a completely different proposition than the Premier League.
It’s one of things I can’t get my head around when the Ange loyalists keep bringing up the cup success as a reason to keep him, yet seem to completely ignore the remarkable similarities to Frank’s tenure who had us 4th in the Champions League, but was very much out of his depth with us!
Don’t believe this to be a true indication (34 loses in 66 games)as there is no doubt he deliberately gave up on the league in the 2nd half of the season to concentrate on Europa to win trophy and get champions league ,I truly believe we wouldn’t have lost near as many games if there was no Europa to play for
Frank never got us top 5 though in the league
He gave up on the league at the end of January 2025. He said so at the time.
At which point we had 10 defeats from 21 league games which was on track for an 18 defeat season.
Which would still be 30 from the last 66 league games. Still abysmal for a Spurs manager.
And this alone is reason enough to justify getting sacked.
De-prioritising the league in April/May when the table is more or less set to focus on a cup/knock out tournament is one thing.
But to do it in January is just wrong. Yes we won a trophy at the end but admitting that you wasted about 5 months of league football is not the win that he thinks that it is.
Even if you took him at his word on giving up at that point - doesnt really make him look any better does it!?
Shocking form all season
actually I'm not agitating for it, I can't think I've ever have posted for his return because I've never wanted him back.
Good coach. Not such a great manager imo.