We’re not that fucking desperate.
Long overdue. With some other team.
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We’re not that fucking desperate.
Long overdue. With some other team.
It is so is playing players in their natural positions.The players don’t just look poor, they are poor.
No manager is going to come in and turn a turd into a diamond in a handful of matches.
We just have to hope that Tudor can motivate the players either through stick or carrot - I actually believe at this point motivation and instilling confidence is just as important as tactics with this current squad the state they are in.
Fixtures are kind but running out. If we lose to Palace and it's more messing around with weird formations/systems that the players aren't buying into then what's the point in keeping him beyond that?Sacking him with a micro mindset makes no sense... the job was to get 7-9 points from 12 games .... It wasn't to beat Arse & Liverpool.
Our fixtures are kind; we just gotta nut up and have faith that we made the right appointment come season end.
If we lose to Palace and it's more messing around with weird formations/systems that the players aren't buying into then what's the point in keeping him beyond that?
We need to try to get any boost we can for that Forest game and then the International Break is the final chance at getting time on the training pitch to turn it around.
Sacking him with a micro mindset makes no sense... the job was to get 7-9 points from 12 games .... It wasn't to beat Arse & Liverpool.
Our fixtures are kind; we just gotta nut up and have faith that we made the right appointment come season end.
Our players look so weak, zero fight. But I don’t blame Igor, we can blame Frank or Ange to a degree but it’s a virus, a malaise that’s spread from poor attitudes much higher up. It’s been acceptable for way too long to lose, to not fight, to not create a fortress and an atmosphere at WHL.
It’s a reflection from the attitude of those much higher up and we the fans have also played our part by accepting it and also not making WHL a fortress.
Can you imagine some of the ultras in Italy putting up with it?
We are far too nice and we all know, nice guys win fuck all.
He may learn but the worrying thing is he must have seen all our games this season and got enough on the players by now. Yet he picks a stupid formation and players out of position. It’s like he is deliberately sabotaging the team. He must know Xavi is not a left winger and then to compound it play a right footed young gray at Lb. Dom in the Kane role and Connie right wing. What did he review and see to make him come up with that shit? Shockingly amerturish.Just some perspective. Two games, one against the top team in the league, and today, a club confidently playing very decent football that Silva has been managing for years. What did we really think Tudor could do in less than two weeks? Unless he's got a magic wand, he's still got the same useless, inconsistent, injury-prone players who can't pass to each other, can't control the ball, can't block shots, can't shoot - the list goes on.
The only games that really matter are the games against Forest, Wet Spam, and Palace. There's no sense in talking of another change of manager now, that's not going to help and we just need to hope that the players have enough self-pride not to want to be part of the squad that took Spurs down.
Tudor will have learned something today. That RKM is average, Richarlison does care and is capable, Solanke needs a proper role, Xavi can't play wide and Gallagher playing out on the touchline is pointless and no threat to the opposition. Hopefully Tudor will learn from all of that, but, the bookies had Fulham odds-on before a ball was kicked, because the table doesn't lie - so our hope is to farm points off those around us.
You watching wolves play tonight. They run like mad and if we were to play them now they would thrash us. Rob Edward’s has got them well fired up. They press and counter at speed. Also they are not afraid to shoot. Why don’t we ever take any shots.Forest and West Ham, botb have hard games midweek. Our game is against the last remaining other teaan that can possibly be dragged into the relegation fight.
Today is done. Can't be recovered. I wish the season ended right now. Sadly not.
No prediction from me, but the pressure, as much as it is obviously on us, is even more on West Ham and Forest, and it's for us to drag Palace closer to the pressure zone.
Sacking him with a micro mindset makes no sense... the job was to get 7-9 points from 12 games .... It wasn't to beat Arse & Liverpool.
Our fixtures are kind; we just gotta nut up and have faith that we made the right appointment come season end.
Compare with Edward’s at wolves chalk and cheese on how they play and how we do. He really needs to get pace into the team and our play.This this and fucking this
If he doesn't do it for palace then he can fuck off back to Italy and wait for his next interim job.
He hasn't done much to impress in first two games despite having a free week before both of them.
Oh and that great coach Frank would have us better organised, harder to beat and run more. wtf have him and his coaches from start of July 25 been doing. There needs to be an inquest into what happened to make sure doesn’t happen again. There has to lines in the sand, progress meetings, checks, etc everything g a normal company would do to evaluate where you are going and status. He has let the football side rot with not one person in the club actually experienced or knowledgable to identify the issues early on or monitor as season progressed. It’s not surprising really as no one has played top level professional football. Lange, vinai, Frank or his backroom team. What a shambles of an appointment.Spurs boss Igor Tudor speaking to Sky Sports: "We were not good, lacked everything. Attacking and defending. Fulham were much better. There are problems here, big problems. We need to stay calm, believe in what we are doing in training, and get out, staying all together.
"These are not things to speak outside, we speak in the dressing room. The problems are more complex [than attitude and commitment] second half was better, but the first half was not enough."
On Fulham's first goal: "Of course it's a foul. Incredible mistake."
On thoughts of relegation: "We are just thinking about the next game. We don't need to think about that [relegation] not because it cannot happen, but we must focus on growing mentality as a team, concentration, physically. These are the only goals we must have."
It feels like Tudor has come in and seen a team who is out of shape lacking physicality and stamina. Poorly coached with no attacking threat. Unable to defend as a unit. Low on confidence. Can't win any 60/40s let alone 50/50s. He's seen why and I don't think he can believe it.
Edwards has got them to play without fear.You watching wolves play tonight. They run like mad and if we were to play them now they would thrash us. Rob Edward’s has got them well fired up. They press and counter at speed. Also they are not afraid to shoot. Why don’t we ever take any shots.
Just get Harry and Sherwood in. Can’t be any worse than this unknown below average manager who we would all laugh at it if appointed by spam.Seeing as they’ve relied on Paratici for this one, I don’t reckon they’ve got a clue who they’d appoint if they want someone else.
Remember the chuckle brothers didn’t want to eject Frank.
Don’t want to see 2 goalies in the bench again. Just put a ficking kid on.He needs to bring some of the kids in from the under 21s and 18s who want to sweat blood for the shirt. This lot don’t want to run or put the hard yards in. They’re taking the piss again today. Running isn’t difficult, it’s the easiest bit of football.