This is one of the reasons we are losing the atmosphere. Noise is predominantly made by working class males from teenage years to their forties. Those people have been priced out of the market, and now we are getting far to many middle class families, and women who have just come to stare at the players legs. The atmosphere in grounds around Europe is so much better than ours. This is because the prices are lower, health and safety is not so stringent, and political correctness doesn't exist. That is to say supporters can sing what they want without getting dragged out because they may have offended someone. For the experience to get better in this country we need to go backwards, not forwards. Lower prices, pay the players less, even if this means we don't get the best in the world (although the two don't necessarily go hand in hand) and bring through more British players.
Above is the admission prices in 1981, the astounding thing is the hyper inflation the ordinary fan has had to put up with these past 30 odd years!
If tickets kept up with inflation a season ticket at the lane should cost £207.63
A pint was 53p back in 1981, if it kept pace with inflation it should be £1.77
The biggest shame is that people have been priced out of our game. Back in those days i used to go to 80 or 90 games a season, sometimes 3 a week as it was affordable.
P.S I think the Woolwich price is a misprint, there prices would have been roughly the same as ours.
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1981 Admission Prices
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Although even back in the late seventies , early eighties when there were sometimes nearly 50,000 in the ground there were a lot of quiet times, infact if it wasn't for the Park lane end and the shelf you'd of thought we were playing away sometimes.
Don't fall into the trap of thinking that before football 'changed' (and you do make a valid point there) that the ground was a mass of singing fans in all 4 stands in the 80s etc. It wasn't. The atmosphere still came mainly from the Park Lane end and the Shelf, and now and again from the Paxton Road end. The West Stand has been like a library from the day it was built.
Bang on mate, we have been sold a puppy by the FA and the premier league over the years, inflation busting price rises and for what? Progress? In the 20 years prior to the premier league we won more European trophies than we have in the past twenty years. We were told the influx of expensive foreign players would only improve our national team? Total bollox of course, you only have to watch that video , shilton in goal for Forest, clemence for spurs, to see that our game already produced world class goalkeepers. By the time that match was played Forest were already double European cup winners. Today a sugar daddy club would have to spend over a £billion to get anywhere near what the great Brian Clough did with home grown players.
I know we're in danger of these types of topic sounding like a BNP manifesto, but the pricing out of so called working class fans could be seen as deliberate by the 'powers that be', simply to weed out the riff-raff and make the 'game' more of an entertainment experience overall.... Which is ironic, as much of the 'entertainment' off the pitch should be the atmosphere!
Palace are getting it right, and it's a shame that our club never officially recognised or embraced 1882 when it first had the chance (preferring to shove us out of sight/out of mind up in Block J) ...as they might well have a loud, vociferous, passionate group of fans who were encouraged to generate an atmosphere at League games, rather than 'just' youth team/European ones. (not that I'm complaining.... I rather like the 'cult status' it has afforded us!)
Palace are getting it right, and it's a shame that our club never officially recognised or embraced 1882 when it first had the chance (preferring to shove us out of sight/out of mind up in Block J) ...as they might well have a loud, vociferous, passionate group of fans who were encouraged to generate an atmosphere at League games, rather than 'just' youth team/European ones. (not that I'm complaining.... I rather like the 'cult status' it has afforded us!)
Yep the Lane could be quiet in the 60s,70s,80s, no doubt about it. But, and it may be because I'm getting older, it was just more fun, when you could stand pretty much where you want (paxton one half, park lane the next, if you fancied it, unless the ground was jam packed) you never saw a steward, if you were on the Shelf, for example. You could move if the bloke next to you was getting on your tits, you could jump up and down, shout, sing and swear, it was just so much freer then.
Incredible that there was so little difference between the top tier and the 4th tier. Season tickets at Bradford, Wigan, Southend and Halifax (4th tier clubs then) cost more than STs at top tier Leeds, Norwich, Middlesbrough and Man City. And top tier Man City had the 91st cheapest ST of all the 92, only Scunthorpe were cheaper!
Above is the admission prices in 1981, the astounding thing is the hyper inflation the ordinary fan has had to put up with these past 30 odd years!
If tickets kept up with inflation a season ticket at the lane should cost £207.63
A pint was 53p back in 1981, if it kept pace with inflation it should be £1.77
The biggest shame is that people have been priced out of our game. Back in those days i used to go to 80 or 90 games a season, sometimes 3 a week as it was affordable.
P.S I think the Woolwich price is a misprint, there prices would have been roughly the same as ours.
Oh for the days of paying £6 to stand in the East Lower and jostling about in the pen to get where you wanted to stand
Remember it going off in there a lot when West Ham ICF wannabes came in without colours in the 80s pretending to be Spurs fans
Remember it going off in there a lot when West Ham ICF wannabes came in without colours in the 80s pretending to be Spurs fans
Yeah I noticed that too.
I do have to say that I am pretty surprised by some current non-league prices too. A few mates are on the board at Fisher FC and I go and see them sometimes. They ground-share with Dulwich Hamlet of the Ryman Premier and the sign at the turnstyle says it's £10 to go and see them! That seemed pretty expensive for that level.
A mate of mine plays for Maidenhead Utd in the Skrill south. £10 at the turnstile. Seems a lot for that level. (happy to pay it though).
I go to watch lower league football every now and again and my local club are going to put their prices up based on them winning the playoffs, it was already £10. Problem is even they get good crowds for the level they are at so will stick with the price.
When i was doing my A levels i used to earn £17 a week in an evening job. I used to travel home & away on that!
Do you know what? I also think that it helped generate an atmosphere, as, if you were that way inclined you could move towards wherever the noise was coming from (remember doing it regularly on the shelf) ...so that anyone who wanted to sing, could sing. (and granted, that wouldn't be everyone... what are we, Turkey?)
Nowadays, you're stuck in the seat you're allocated, looking enviously on down the block to where all the fun is being had, and wondering when the 'rules changed' so that the stewards stopped you going over there for 45 mins! It makes any atmosphere that much harder to generate, as it's spread thinly out, rather than a cluster of noise that can catch on... which is precisely what 1882 managed to do!
Barnet are in the Skrill Premier and its £17 in the terrace or £23/£25 if you'd like a seat.