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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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This this this. I don't even need to comment. Couldn't have put it clearer myself.
We dont need instant success. But we need to have faith in the man. What kind of idiot brings on Soldado every match when we are a goal down only for it fail miserably every single time and not learn a simple lesson that its not working. Such glaringly stupid decisions can not be overlooked. It shows the thinking ability of this manager or lack of it really.
Now do I want to put faith in a man who is this stupid? Not at all.
Should Ramos have been given 2 full seasons to see what he does? Nope. When you see someone this bad, you sack them right away or they take you back further and further and cause too much damage.
Reach the league cup final beating mainly lower league teams and losing the first match to actual contender to winning the cup
'Youngest team'. Oooo...isnt that the dream. The biggest achievement of all time. Real and Barca must be so envious.Who cares about winning when you can have the youngest team.
'Develops a top striker'. The same striker who already had a 1 in 2 record when given a run in a 2 striker system where he had to share the chances. The same striker he didnt play until November who he stumbled across after failing with loldado.
Has a poor end to the season. Poor is a nice way of putting it.
Finishes 5th-7th. Also 1st-7th. Lol in reality its 6th-7th. We are closer to 7th than 5th. Southampton are closer to us than ever after replacing a shite manager with a better one.
Some of the opinions from the poochlover clan are absolutely ridiculous. Now lets hear the explanation about how bringing on soldado every time we are a goal down is a stroke of genius from the master tactician. Jesus wept indeed.
This place is indeed laughable at times. The Pro-Pooch clan is hillariously delusional.
Jesus christ, calm down you drama queen. Ramos had 2 points from 8 games!
How about the last 4 months of the season?
Since beating Woolwich, we have played well once v Newcastle.
The first half of the season showed signs of positivity, but dont be deluded that we were playing brilliant, flowing football every week either. Chelsea and arse were one offs.
We have won lots of games we have been awful in.
The key here is that some people are results based, and seem to care little for how those points are gained. The irony is that the people who want to see good football are accused of demanding instant success, when in fact Id be happier to finish 10th if I saw some heart desire and direction on the pitch.
Lost a cup final by playing an exhausted team that he had just flown to Italy 68 hours before, then was naive enough to play an identical 11 to the 5-3 game, thinking that Jose wouldnt be able to change his team up to combat what happened last time.
Youngest team in the league.....but Ive heard its not his team. They are not his players. He cant trust them and he needs new ones. But you are crediting that to him??
Well done for picking Kane after Tim had shown everyone that he was worth a shot. He started with Ade, then Soldado by the way......hardly rocket science to give Kane a bash was it.
Has had a very, very poor second half of the season.
Finished 5th - 7th....on a par, or lower (but with less points) than two managers who he is supposedly better than managed to get.
He won his cup final against Chelsea though
Great post, and absolutely bang on
Why don't you apply for the job, see if you can do better, you absolute gooner cock
I can't believe some people think we are one of the top four clubs in the country. We haven't been for 4 years. Some people need to lower their expectations. Pochettino will do the best he can with the players he has at his disposal. I'd say based on performances this season we aren't the 6th best club, yet we sit there. You'll always get "those" fans though who will moan when we don't get the top four or win matches, yet laugh at the team when they lose to "prove a point" at how Poch isn't the right man. You really want the team we have to go into the Champions League? We'd not even get passed the qualifiers.
We have three clubs above us who spend billions more than us (Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea), you have a club with stability and a manager who knows how to win games when it matters, a club that always finishes above us (Woolwich) and then a team who have spent £100,000,000 in the summer and finished second in the league last season (Liverpool).
Would we do any better with a team full of players Pochettino trusts, is suited to what Pochettino wants from his players and a squad he can rely on? Who knows, but I have a strong strong feeling we'd do a lot better than we are doing now.
We have three clubs above us who spend billions more than us (Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea), you have a club with stability and a manager who knows how to win games when it matters, a club that always finishes above us (Woolwich) and then a team who have spent £100,000,000 in the summer and finished second in the league last season (Liverpool).
Would we do any better with a team full of players Pochettino trusts, is suited to what Pochettino wants from his players and a squad he can rely on? Who knows, but I have a strong strong feeling we'd do a lot better than we are doing now.
sammyspurs
you're a fence sitter who loves to think he is always right. You have no 'opinion' other than to edge your bets and be Captain Hindsight. Next season when Poch wins 3 games in a row you'll no doubt pull a quote out from 10 months ago and say how you always had faith in him.Lets look at things from an objective, long-term view.
Poch has hit his target. We were never going to challenge for 4th this year, not with a strike force of Soldado and Adebayor. Anyone who is disappointed with 5-7th simply doesn't understand our position, our squad and our financial limitations. This season was about remaining somewhat competitive whilst Poch got an idea of who he wanted in or out. How high can you finish when you only have 3 goal threats?
AVB got more points, with one of the best players in the world. Sherwood got more points, whilst unsettling the dressing room every time he held a press conference. I don't think comparing Poch to either bears much fruit; without Bale we would have been pathetic under AVB and the situation with Sherwood would have imploded after a few more months.
We now have 10 scouts and a head of recruitment; this area has been COMPLETELY redeveloped, because Poch wanted it to be. You think it's pure coincidence that we brought in the bloke from Southampton? We will see the fruits of this summer. There is a clear objective and structure, something we've lacked since Redknapp.
The coaching set up is much better and you can actually see players improving, rather than being bribed with statements like, "you're the next one to go to Real Madrid". Rose has improved beyond belief, Kane has improved, Bentaleb. The entire squad seems to have improved in some form or another, even Townsend.
The squad is much younger. This is going to hurt your team in the short term, players will make huge mistakes and will need to learn. But in the long term there is huge potential for improvement. Again, something to judge Poch on next year; for many players (Mason, Bentaleb, Kane, Lamela, Dier, Davies, Chadli etc) this is their first real season, without injuries.
The team is mentally stronger than before, we've won more points from losing positions than any other team. We've played the big teams and we've generally taken points off them or been unlucky not to win (Liverpool, United, City). This is in massive contrast to last year. We also look like a team, which hasn't always been the case.
Our season only started to turn sour when we lost undeservedly to Liverpool, got knocked out of Europe and lost a cup final within the space of 3 weeks. Morale and confidence took a knock and we've struggled to gain momentum since, while struggling with fatigue. Poch was put in an impossible situation; no manager could have come out of that fixture pile up without scars.
People seem to mention the bad and seem to forget that for 3 and a half month over the winter period our form was incredible. Out of 15 games we won 10 and drew 2. Take the good with the bad.
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Lets look at things from an objective, long-term view.
Poch has hit his target. We were never going to challenge for 4th this year, not with a strike force of Soldado and Adebayor. Anyone who is disappointed with 5-7th simply doesn't understand our position, our squad and our financial limitations. This season was about remaining somewhat competitive whilst Poch got an idea of who he wanted in or out. How high can you finish when you only have 3 goal threats?
AVB got more points, with one of the best players in the world. Sherwood got more points, whilst unsettling the dressing room every time he held a press conference. I don't think comparing Poch to either bears much fruit; without Bale we would have been pathetic under AVB and the situation with Sherwood would have imploded after a few more months.
We now have 10 scouts and a head of recruitment; this area has been COMPLETELY redeveloped, because Poch wanted it to be. You think it's pure coincidence that we brought in the bloke from Southampton? We will see the fruits of this summer. There is a clear objective and structure, something we've lacked since Redknapp.
The coaching set up is much better and you can actually see players improving, rather than being bribed with statements like, "you're the next one to go to Real Madrid". Rose has improved beyond belief, Kane has improved, Bentaleb. The entire squad seems to have improved in some form or another, even Townsend.
The squad is much younger. This is going to hurt your team in the short term, players will make huge mistakes and will need to learn. But in the long term there is huge potential for improvement. Again, something to judge Poch on next year; for many players (Mason, Bentaleb, Kane, Lamela, Dier, Davies, Chadli etc) this is their first real season, without injuries.
The team is mentally stronger than before, we've won more points from losing positions than any other team. We've played the big teams and we've generally taken points off them or been unlucky not to win (Liverpool, United, City). This is in massive contrast to last year. We also look like a team, which hasn't always been the case.
Our season only started to turn sour when we lost undeservedly to Liverpool, got knocked out of Europe and lost a cup final within the space of 3 weeks. Morale and confidence took a knock and we've struggled to gain momentum since, while struggling with fatigue. Poch was put in an impossible situation; no manager could have come out of that fixture pile up without scars.
People seem to mention the bad and seem to forget that for 3 and a half month over the winter period our form was incredible. Out of 15 games we won 10 and drew 2. Take the good with the bad.
I agree but I do find it annoying that the club ( including our cHAIRman) says that top 4 is a must. Of course , most people will know it's utter bollocks but if they have sacked managers for not achieving that I do fine it pretty stupid when it's clear that we are not at that level
Here's a question for you, pal.
Which one of us has posted on a Man City forum?
I'll give you a clue. It's not me.
Thats a relief, Im usually accused of ramming it down peoples throats.
Didnt read the rest. Its not what you say, its the way you say it...
If I respond, you whine about me trying to be right and my high post count.
If I dont, you will accuse me of running away etc.
Well, I cant be bothered to go through all that with you, which should please you as Im just a troll anyway.
Im glad you are happy with the current set up. It must be a nice for you as a fan. Good luck.
Don't ever call me your pal, I will never acknowledge your existence. I've also posted on some tennis forums - that doesn't make me Rafael Nadal.
"I know. I won't reply, but I'll reply".
Taking fence sitting to a whole new level.
So, you're talking to yourself then, are you?
With the amount of disagrees you've given 'yourself', I can only assume you have a severe case of split personality disorder.
"I know. I won't reply, but I'll reply".
Taking fence sitting to a whole new level.
You know my stance....you complained about me saying the same thing for 70 pages.
Not sure why you would possibly want me to say it one more time.
Put your money where your mouth is and show everyone that you dont need me to notice you.
