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Manager Mauricio Pochettino

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Hypothetical question:

We're a goal down, sixty minutes into the game, the team is currently lined up as usual (4-2-3-1 : same starting eleven as usual). What do you do to change the game?
Bring on Soldado as Eriksen has done nothing again bring on townsend tell him and lamela not to come inside but hit the line and keep crosses coming in
 
Bring on Soldado as Eriksen has done nothing again bring on townsend tell him and lamela not to come inside but hit the line and keep crosses coming in
Given he's not set up that way in 55 games I can't see him doing it now. And If Nogoaldo is the answer, that's a loaded question. Makes no difference with our "Coach" he'd play Fredel at Left Back to keep 4-2-3-mother fucking 1 formation.
 
Bring on Soldado as Eriksen has done nothing again bring on townsend tell him and lamela not to come inside but hit the line and keep crosses coming in
I think that's a viable plan B. Go 4-4-2 with traditional wingers to give width & get crosses into the box if his preferred plan A is failing. My only real gripe with Poch is that he hasn't tried too many different things other than playing 4 centre halves on Saturday which was a colossal balls up as it turned out. His system won't work all the time in every match & great managers always know how to mix things up when their plan A isn't working in these last 2 games there is no harm in trying some different things with the players he has now
 
Adjust to the new manager, his methods, tactics, etc. I don't think he should be given a carte bloanche. He'll still have to do reasonably well but at the moment I don't think aiming for the top 4 is a good idea as it would put too much pressure on everyone and we'd just end up having another season like last one. I'd be of the same opinion if FdB came in. Any manager would need time to implement his tactics.

This.

It baffles me that the same people that wanted to give AVB two years to implement a style of play are now sharpening the knives already.

You've changed your tune somewhat in under 12 months? I don't think anyone is particularly happy about the past couple of months-results, performances etc. but most people are being patient & cautiously optimistic about the general direction we are heading. Would you accept that you agreed 4th place was overly ambitious in his first season & that his methods & tactics perhaps need more time? Worst case scenario we got to a cup final & fell away after that with a very young & inexperienced team. Surely the knives need to be put back in the block a while longer?
 
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My stance is pretty clear by now, surely:

I want him to stay
I want him to learn instead of making the same mistakes
I want the team to develop even without his dream lottery of transfers
I feel he was better in the first half of the season
I think since then he shown a worrying stubborness and lack of tactical ability
Im not sure anymore that is something that a manager simply learns
I want to see what he can do with "his" squad
I dont see why he cant be judged after 55-60 games, when IMO, only 4-5 were really good performances.
 
My stance is pretty clear by now, surely:

I want him to stay
I want him to learn instead of making the same mistakes
I want the team to develop even without his dream lottery of transfers
I feel he was better in the first half of the season
I think since then he shown a worrying stubborness and lack of tactical ability
Im not sure anymore that is something that a manager simply learns
I want to see what he can do with "his" squad
I dont see why he cant be judged after 55-60 games, when IMO, only 4-5 were really good performances.

it's a good stance sammy, to be sure. I agree with almost everything. The last bit eh, but it's subjective to be honest. At the very least, what a 4-5 they were.. yeah?
 
it's a good stance sammy, to be sure. I agree with almost everything. The last bit eh, but it's subjective to be honest. At the very least, what a 4-5 they were.. yeah?

Hmmm, to be honest I was being gtenerous...

Chelsea home
Woolwich home and away
WBA away
Those were excellent.

Id really like people who say that we played more excellent games, to list which other performances came close to those.
But alas, they never do.
 
If Poch is given so much credit for Kane, then HR should have a statue for developing Bale into a world class player. Everyone knows he is forced to play Kane(hoping he can be our savior, which he kinda of did) because Soldado and Ade was rubbish.
What give a statue to the man that didn't fancy Bale at all, tried to sell him and asked his son to tout him around to see if anyone was interested?
Kane should be given credit for Kane's performance's and it just so happens that Kane has thrived under MP.
 
I think that's a viable plan B. Go 4-4-2 with traditional wingers to give width & get crosses into the box if his preferred plan A is failing. My only real gripe with Poch is that he hasn't tried too many different things other than playing 4 centre halves on Saturday which was a colossal balls up as it turned out. His system won't work all the time in every match & great managers always know how to mix things up when their plan A isn't working in these last 2 games there is no harm in trying some different things with the players he has now

Bit harsh, considering both left backs are injured as well as Walker.
 
My stance is pretty clear by now, surely:

I want him to stay
I want him to learn instead of making the same mistakes
I want the team to develop even without his dream lottery of transfers
I feel he was better in the first half of the season
I think since then he shown a worrying stubborness and lack of tactical ability
Im not sure anymore that is something that a manager simply learns
I want to see what he can do with "his" squad
I dont see why he cant be judged after 55-60 games, when IMO, only 4-5 were really good performances.
I don't disagree with a lot of what you say Sammy. You talk a lot sense sometimes, sometimes you maybe get dragged into point scoring with a plethora of old posts being dragged up....

But it's all very well asking for him to change and learn when he's really learning about the team - that if we are honest, wasn't in great shape last season. You can quote stats from last season, but look at the performances of those games.... how many were great?
Or how many were a shambles, scraped wins based purely on the ability of some of our players - not team philosophy.

Perhaps this is his "feeler" season. Work things out, see who's worth keeping.
Perhaps he's trying to instill a philosophy and it can be hard to change a philosphy (espeically on a team that had the worst distance covered last season).
And I would imagine that it's hard to install a philosophy especially if the tactics keep changing each match.

At the end of the day, I hope he gets another season, I hope we see progress, hope Levy backs him this season, hope the recruitments of people like Mitch make a difference..... because changing a manager without backing in the market won't do anything I fear
 
Hmmm, to be honest I was being gtenerous...

Chelsea home
Woolwich home and away
WBA away
Those were excellent.

Id really like people who say that we played more excellent games, to list which other performances came close to those.
But alas, they never do.
Everton and Soton at home. City at home arguably. Burnley at home. Newcastle in the League Cup. QPR home and away. Swansea away.

7 more games where I think we were actually quite good.
 
Everton and Soton at home. City at home arguably. Burnley at home. Newcastle in the League Cup. QPR home and away. Swansea away.

7 more games where I think we were actually quite good.

Yeah but there is a big difference between quite good and very good.

And IMO, QPR away was abysmal with Poch making a hash of his subs.

I wouldnt talk any of those games in the same breath as the Woolwich performances, or Chelsea.
But even if you take them into account as good games, when it comes to to 60 odd games, playing poorly is still very much the norm.
 
I think some people on here might get more out of following Spurs if they actually went to some matches. QPR away and Villa away were brilliant fun, as was the Emirates and many more matches perceived to have been rubbish

We didn't play great but it was brilliant entertainment. I had much more fun at those matches than I did watching us beat QPR resoundingly at home

Ultimately following Spurs is supposed to be fun. It's cool to see us play well and win matches, but it's also a great day out watching us score 2 to scrape a draw at home to WHU. Infinitely more exhilarating than if we had beat them 1-0

ENJOY IT, IT'S A GAME.
 
Ultimately following Spurs is supposed to be fun. It's cool to see us play well and win matches, but it's also a great day out watching us score 2 to scrape a draw at home to WHU. Infinitely more exhilarating than if we had beat them 1-0
Exactly - if you expect us to dominate and win every game 4:0, perhaps this isn't the club for you
 
But it's all very well asking for him to change and learn when he's really learning about the team - that if we are honest, wasn't in great shape last season. You can quote stats from last season, but look at the performances of those games.... how many were great?
Or how many were a shambles, scraped wins based purely on the ability of some of our players - not team philosophy.
Is that not the case this season?
 
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