Have you seen how little Moura offers a lot of the time?You can't provide more off the bench if you're not available to be picked though.
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Have you seen how little Moura offers a lot of the time?You can't provide more off the bench if you're not available to be picked though.
We need more goals out of the 2 in the front 4 not called Son or Kane. Given a run of games I reckon Lamela would score more than Bergwijn or Moura to be honest.Lamela gives a lot more of an option off the bench than Lucas Moura.
His injury record is a problem but as has been stated above, this is likely to make it very difficult to shift him for anything this summer. So ideally we get another year out of him and part ways in 2022.
It will be hard to give Lamela a run of games, as I dont think wheel chairs nor gurneys are allowed on the pitchWe need more goals out of the 2 in the front 4 not called Son or Kane. Given a run of games I reckon Lamela would score more than Bergwijn or Moura to be honest.
You're giving Lamela goal scoring way too much credit.We need more goals out of the 2 in the front 4 not called Son or Kane. Given a run of games I reckon Lamela would score more than Bergwijn or Moura to be honest.
Just going on the numbers Moura is easily the best of the 3, but I think that the problem is the one the other poster raised ... Lamela can't seem to stay fit.You're giving Lamela goal scoring way too much credit.
Of the three, he's probably the worst finisher. Jury's still out on Bergwijn but I can't imagine him being worse than Lamela.
Being completely honest it would be possible to upgrade on all 3, I just like Lamela more.Both Lamela and Moura should be sold as soon as possible but as mentioned above Lamela provides something, pressing ability, off the bench while Moura offers nothing. Combine that with his injury history he is likely harder to move so if we are keeping one, Lamela makes a lot more sense to keep over Moura.
But in reality they are both guys we desperately need to upgrade.
Being completely honest it would be possible to upgrade on all 3, I just like Lamela more.
He’s still always available though. I’d rather have players who are always available and give 100% effort than a player who is available 60% of the time.Have you seen how little Moura offers a lot of the time?
He’s still always available though. I’d rather have players who are always available and give 100% effort than a player who is available 60% of the time.
Lucas receives way too much hate from Spurs fans.
You could make the same argument for Lamela, Winks, Davies, Dele and others. We can’t have a squad of world class players unfortunately.Available 100% and tries hard but does nothing. This isn't youth soccer, trying hard is nice but we need actual talent not just good efforts.
Lucas has shown over his time here that he is not close to good enough and yet he is constantly defended largely based on one game. He gets way more credit and defending from Spurs fans than he deserves. That was a great night but we cannot keep guys who do not contribute and are not good enough because they had one good game in their 80+ games with the club.
You could make the same argument for Lamela, Winks, Davies, Dele and others. We can’t have a squad of world class players unfortunately.
I’m not saying I want Lucas over anyone. I’m saying I’ll take him over Lamela because he’s at least going to be available.
No matter how little Lucas contributes, it is still worth more than the zero contribution from Lamela who spends so much time with the doctors that he should have graduated med schoolAvailable 100% and tries hard but does nothing. This isn't youth soccer, trying hard is nice but we need actual talent not just good efforts.
Lucas has shown over his time here that he is not close to good enough and yet he is constantly defended largely based on one game. He gets way more credit and defending from Spurs fans than he deserves. That was a great night but we cannot keep guys who do not contribute and are not good enough because they had one good game in their 80+ games with the club.
No matter how little Lucas contributes, it is still worth more than the zero contribution from Lamela who spends so much time with the doctors that he should have graduated med school
What are you keeping in Lamela when is almost never available? There is nothing to keep.I have advocated for moving on from Lamela as well.
It is possible for wanting to sell both.
I have already said the reason I keep Lamela if it is an either or proposition is that a. with his injury history likely that moving Lamela would be tough and b. he is effective at pressing. So he has something, as limited as it is that he can do.
Moura offers nothing. He is terrible with the ball at his feet, he isn't good defensively, he is not effective at pressing and more often than not he kills our attacking play.
What are you keeping in Lamela when is almost never available? There is nothing to keep.
Moura offers something no matter how little else he wont be playing in games. A player that offers nothing will not get 35 NT caps in a country like Brazil.
I'd get rid of both of them and get someone who stays fit and does more than run into the nearest player.He’s still always available though. I’d rather have players who are always available and give 100% effort than a player who is available 60% of the time.
Lucas receives way too much hate from Spurs fans.
The conundrum with Lamela is, has his nagging injuries sort of helped people's view of him? Would he still be here if not for his constant injuries? Would he have gone to Marseille, back to Roma or Argentina?Just going on the numbers Moura is easily the best of the 3, but I think that the problem is the one the other poster raised ... Lamela can't seem to stay fit.
He would either be a club legend or he would be long gone.The conundrum with Lamela is, has his nagging injuries sort of helped people's view of him? Would he still be here if not for his constant injuries? Would he have gone to Marseille, back to Roma or Argentina?