A Philosophical Objection to VAR

[BangkokSpud]

VAR is correct it's the application that's wrong ....

The offside rule just needs changing - instead of "if any goal-scoring part of a players body (so not arms) is offside then he's offside" it should be "if any goal-scoring part of a players body (so not arms) is onside then he's onside" - that puts the advantage back with the striker ...

Nearly every one of this seasons was he wasn't he millimetre decisions would then have gone in the striker's favour ... isn't that the whole idea?

If it's still a marginal call (say less than 20 centimetres) then the striker gets the decision ...

Whilst we are now arguing about VAR application at least we are no longer discussing blatant errors by referees and linesmen - and that was the whole point of VAR to cut out the obvious mistakes.

 

[Achilles]

I honestly think we’d all be OK with VAR if the decisions were genuinely obvious. Obvious mistakes will always happen, so if a review shows that someone was a yard offside we can’t really complain.

If it’s unclear, just go for the initial decision. VAR decisions should be something that everyone can agree with. If we’re arguing about millimetres it’s entered a territory beyond fair judgment.

VAR should be about definitive evidence, not speculative.

When you have to lay a grid over a freeze frame image and for all intents and purposes randomly pick the spot on the defender and the offensive player's bodies that are "allowed" to be offside it will never be clear and obvious. I'm still in favor of a 30 second review time limit, only allowed to view replays at full speed. If you have to slow it down frame by frame it is not clear and obvious.

 

[TheRealTI]

Watford got a red card from a couple days ago overturned. We also go the Son one from Everton overturned.

What on Earth is the point of VAR if they can't catch obvious mis-called reds?

 

[Cripps14]

The fact that it depends what ground you are playing at in the FA Cup, which determines whether or not it's used is a joke. Either you are able to roll it out for all fixtures, or none.

And the Lacazette thing - with VAR now in place, is there still the retrospective action, if a ref didn't see something? I didn't see the game and none of the highlights I can find show the incident. But surely if no action was taken during the match, then an independent panel should be able to punish retrospectively if they spot an error, as was the case previously.

Or is it now the case, where if VAR looks at something and decides it's not worthy of changing the decision, then there is no retrospective action taken?