I’ve looked at our next three games and if we don’t go through on Thursday Ange will be gone during the international break as we will struggle against Fulham and guaranteed defeat against Chelsea. Only progression on Thursday saves him but we all know that it will just be a stay of execution.
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Management Ange: In/Out?
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Why are there so many "even if we win Europa..."
We are not winning the Europa with such standard of uncoached play. I really don't think we will.
We are not winning the Europa with such standard of uncoached play. I really don't think we will.
I don't think there is much doubt he is now going. Just as soon as we are out of Europe - so could be Thursday. It is with huge regret that I say this. For a moment there I really believed we had found ourselves a top Manager. But instead it has been another false dawn. One day we will stick with a manager and build the legacy the new infrastructure and fans deserve. One day.
Ideally the next Ferguson, worth backing year after year.
Not the next Ange.
The interesting thing with Ange is that he appears to have held on to the dressing room throughout all of this - which is somewhat unusual. You'd have thought that some players would have gone on record (or briefed to the press) more to complain about some of the tactical and player choices, but that hasn't really been the case.
If only he had a vague idea about tactics and coaching then we'd have been onto a good thing.
If only he had a vague idea about tactics and coaching then we'd have been onto a good thing.
Sorry , I haven’t read too many pages back on this thread but can anyone that is Ange ‘in’ please explain why you think he should be given another season at the club ?
My gut feeling is that training isn't too tough on them, he's not a lunatic like Conte, or a fitness mentalist like Poch, or a dietician like Ramos.
They probably mostly all have it easy and only a few senior players so far can see through the BS façade that he's a real coach.
I'm confused... So you do want to know what people on this thread think, or you don't? If you do, read the thread - I can promise you there are lots of conversations about Ange here, much of it about whether he should go and if so, when.
If you don't want to know that stuff, close the thread. Given that none of us know you in real life (presumably) then there isn't really an option to find out that stuff without reading it. :/EDIT: I can give you a clue though - I very much doubt there is anyone on this thread or any other who thinks at this point that Ange should be given another year. I might be wrong, but I'd be very surprised...
I'm confused... So you do want to know what people on this thread think, or you don't? If you do, read the thread - I can promise you there are lots of conversations about Ange here, much of it about whether he should go and if so, when.
EDIT: I can give you a clue though - I very much doubt there is anyone on this thread or any other who thinks at this point that Ange should be given another year. I might be wrong, but I'd be very surprised...
Oh there will be. But they will be hiding. Waiting for the next win. Waiting for a chance to emerge and hoping their cult leader can bring back the good ol' days.
Agreed , give him two or better still sack him & then rehire him until he wins something in his “ second” year
All you doubters….
we did look coached at one point, despite the flaws there were proper attacking patterns and a good press. that's not existed for about 12 months now though. it's given way to looking completely uncoached again like 2nd season conte or all of jose's spell . just the crappy worst bits of ange ball seems to survived like Porro being in no mans land or all
I'm hearing Johan Lange is going to be sacked from his job at the end of the season . Lange failed to land Mathys Tel , and Levy and Ange had to get involved in persuading him to come to Tottenham .
Many posters on the forum wanted Mourinho out well before Levy sacked him. A lot agreed with the decision as no one thought we stood a chance of winning the way the team was playing. The others were much earlier in the season.
Ange in does not mean another season but in NOW or to the end of the season.
Really? When was the last time on this forum that you saw someone saying Ange should be given next season? Sorry if it's happened and I've missed it, but I think it's quite a long time now since anyone has said that... (some may say 'If we win Europa and performances improve' etc, but that's completely different, that's not saying right now that he should be given next season, which is what the lazy poster was asking about). I mean I know you say they are 'hiding' etc, but then you must have some idea of who they are, and you must know when and where they recently said this, otherwise what could you possibly be basing that opinion on? :/
Normally to achieve winning anything, a team has to have a degree of organisation and structure.
Our team has neither, therefore, the chance of him delivering a trophy is low.
The team has been on the slide since December 2023, it's been painful to watch and, for others who have refused to believe that ange is not the real deal.
Yep fair play to you there's some logic to what you say. For me though it's been manifest he's a complete cluncker for so long I don't get the prevarication and out right denial in some. The injuries as you say probably brought him more time and though I've used Nuno pointedly against the board you can argue that maybe they are watching and thinking he obviously deserved more support let's not do that again.
I know there are always exceptions but the lack of serious football pedigree should have warranted Ange less time too, the coefficients of the leagues he's worked in quality of players.ect. I tell you guys the truth I might have given him more time had he not made a fair few awful self-inflicted wounds Djed Spence: the communication issues, petulance, weirdness with the fan base, the Europa league squad composition was a massive red flag serious people diligent people don't hand in a squad list that looks like that. It was an early indicator he wasn't across detail and that's played out over and over. With blatant evasiveness or bald lies compounding the original mistake.
Just seen that Paratici is eligible to start work again in June. Hoping that Lange and Ange both get the sack and Paratici takes control again.
If; such a small word, such a large meaning.