I agree with most of that and yes we should stick with a manager but Ange isn’t the one imv
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I agree with most of that and yes we should stick with a manager but Ange isn’t the one imv
To go from what I still class as my favourite team in 86/87 to what Venables got after that was night and day.
What do you mean nothing improved? I wasn’t Conte biggest fan (I actually preferred ten Hag over Nuno and Conte) but he took us from 9th place, unable to register a shot on target in like 300 minutes, to pipping the scum for 4th and securing a superb 3-0 win in NLD along the way, while playing one of the most enjoyable football since Poch era.
I read somewhere that at the end of the season Conte said to his staff something like “pay attention, we shouldn’t celebrate that much a 4th place”. He was clearly not a manager whose aim was to fight for Champions League spots. He wanted titles.
Maybe we should’ve invested in proper players, not the likes of Lenglet and Richarlison. Don’t know if these players are really what Conte wanted, probably not, but a serious club would’ve pushed for much better quality.
I think at that point Conte realized the club will not match his ambition, plus the death of his staff member probably added to his apathy. That’s just a guess though.
Lol… I don’t know about Tuchel, he seems a bit “unstable”, but I would be willing to bet we’d be in a better place if Nagelsmann was our manager. He’s not the Conte/Mourinho type. Would’ve been ideally if we hired him before he got the Bayern job, but I don’t think he would’ve considered Spurs beneath him if he was to take the job last summer.
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There is a massive difference in worrying, and throwing your toys out of the pram and asking for the manager to be sacked because our first league title win in over 60 years hasn't come immediately after our worst season in decades.
I know you'll probably say 'oh you say that because you're Australian', but time and time again we shit the bed and go after manages too early. It's hurting the club and we keep going down this path I think we'll struggle to attract people.
Yeah and I am sitting here thinking what players exactly?
Because from what I have been seeing, nobody in this team is currently on form aside from Romero; Madders has been one of the worst offenders for example.
Not really sure what he is expecting from a rebuild or what he thinks the board will do during the next window? Spend £100m and buy him a title winning side? I mean he has said he wants a title challenge this time next year?
I feel like he was backed pretty well in the last window and if anything he has underperformed the last 3 months with the players we have and I am willing to bet the board and Levy will likely also see it that way if we finish 6th/7th with this kind of form.
Would be different I imagine if we were still playing fantastic football but just getting unlucky or being outplayed but still showing signs of something positive, the Chelsea game was like watching a manager that's been here for years that the players have given up on already.
Uhh no? We’re playing far from good football… Have you watched us this year or what?
Just over a year since Antonio got sacked for calling out the situation in the squad.
Fair enough - I reckon he's staying at least till the start of next season and beyond unless we start horrifically.
Fingers crossed today is the start of the turnaround!
A little surprising so many want him gone. A few years ago Arteta looked clueless at Woolwich and now look what has happened when he was given time. We can’t keep sacking managers every year and a half.
I thought Nagelsmann told us to jog on when we enquired?
Call me naive, but I thought the signings of Maddison, Vicario and VDV were mini masterstrokes... in addition to reintegrating Sarr back into the squad (him and Biss were pretty much periphery figures under Conte)
Udogie has shone at times, Porro has improved no end... Johnson showed real promise early on, Bentancur was back... TWICE!
It's only really our front players like Kulu, Son and Richie who have dropped off so drastically ... Remember the consecutive Goalscoring run...? That feels like another season now!
It seems that since the Chelsea home game fiasco EVERYTHING changed...
ONE game, made all the difference.
The problem is that we ALLOWED ONE game to do such damage the rest of our season....
That HAS to be a mentality thing, no?
Udogie has shone at times, Porro has improved no end... Johnson showed real promise early on, Bentancur was back... TWICE!
It's only really our front players like Kulu, Son and Richie who have dropped off so drastically ... Remember the consecutive Goalscoring run...? That feels like another season now!
It seems that since the Chelsea home game fiasco EVERYTHING changed...
ONE game, made all the difference.
The problem is that we ALLOWED ONE game to do such damage the rest of our season....
That HAS to be a mentality thing, no?
A win there would make my weekend!
Didn’t Alasdair Gold say we weren’t really in for him?
Football fans are the most fickle people on this earth.
We start playing well again and go on a winning run, he’ll be god again.
There’s a small group of people who are probably happy at the moment, because they never wanted him in the first place and feel like they’ve been proven right. They don’t want to give him a chance because they’ve already made up their mind about him
I don’t recall that, but could be.
Sometimes difficult to tell what is true and what is PR fed from the club where AG is concerned.
I was happy when we appointed Ange. Thought it was a positive step away from Jose/Conte/Nuno and he would return to our attacking roots. Was well up for it. What I am concerned about is the repetitive mistakes and apparent unwillingness to adapt. I don't want the guy out either, I just don't see the point of that approach, I would give A. a shake at building a team first.
To be honest I'm gobsmacked but not surprised that so many would be prepared to jump ship from Ange already.
Not disagreeing its its gone bad recently but I don't see yet another short term change is the best way forward. We as the fans are our own worst enemy as the moment its not working we are calling for change. He can't change the entire culture at the club that quickly and there will be setbacks.
The man has had the bulk of one summer window and a January one to change the playing staff. There has also been huge changeover in the scouting setup. This year has told him who he can trust and work with and I expect change. I also think we are more likely to get it as he is not demanding premium price footballers but ones with character he can trust so not necessarily the most expensive.
We have a man who clearly gives a shit about the club not just their own reputation unlike the Conte and Mourinho.
Back the manager. If we are still in this position in a year then I am worried.
They're attention seeking clowns, you can't take those people seriously.