We have average forwards...
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We have average forwards...
I usually refer to them as Doomers, but maybe we call them MM's
What's your favourite flavour?
No look at teams like Brighton they don’t have top level players cost over £50M yet they can pass the ball around well. Pass and move as a unit. They look they have been coached in patterns of play. Do we look even slightly coached. We can only score from type of move get it wide and low cross. We hardly score from free kicks and corners but concede from then 10 a penny.
We score a lot of goals for a team that is shit going forwards.
We had unbending 'system' managers with Hoddle and Conte in particular. You could probably even add George Graham and Mourinho. All were very good tactically but all needed the absolute best players to make the system work. For all the will in the world Ange isnt as good tactically as them and will also not get the absolute best players to make the system work. I'd love owners that would buy the best but we have to live in the reality we face rather than what we'd like to happen. If it were a choice between a new manager or new owners i'd go for new owners but its not.
We absolutely look coached.
Yeah we pour players forward at the expense of any stability. That's not being good going forward, we're not pretty on the eye, we don't put together moves you sit back and admire. We scored two against Liverpool AFTER the game was already dead. We scored two against Woolwich AFTER the game was already over.
We were great for the first 10 games and put together some lovely attacking moves, since then we're not an entertaining but flawed team, we're just ineffective in all areas of the pitch apart from in retaining the ball. Teams aren't struggling to contain us going forward at all.
A winger he picked out for 45m, Son with 26 g/a, Kulu who he apparently admires and in reserve Werner who he wanted and Richarlison the 60m forward.
Are we meant to believe these forwards are a finger click away from a full upgrade? Why? What tells you we'll manage that?
Exactly.
People are reacting to a rough patch that has us in ... checks notes ...5th. After finishing 8th.
What are they afraid of? Not finishing 4th again and risking the doom of finishing 8th?
The last manager to get us close to being successful was Poch and he was a...checks notes again... system manager.
If we really want to break our ceiling, we really need to try something different and stick to it. Even when the easy option would be to piss ourselves and sack another manager in search of that sweet dopamine hit of new manager bounce.
But you said the other day that we need a striker to replace Son, it's been well documented that you don't rate Kulu and you don't rate Werner either? So once again you're changing your argument just to fit the narrative.
Do you have genuinely dementia or something?
Pochettino's first season was much better and he had much less in terms of resources. I really don't care that technically they both finished 5th, one had to use the academy, one had next to zero money to spend, one got us to a cup final.
Kulu made permanent on his watch and Johnson, Werner and Solomon came in so 4 of the forwards came in under him. As you say Son is still very good as well. Not his fault really, Kulu , Werner and Solomon were deals the club loves but therin lies the problem. They'll be more of those this summer. He isnt going to have Williams, Sesko and Olise next season mores the pity.
Disgusting comment but I'd expect nothing less from you, Shady.
We do need to replace Son, I just have no faith in us to do it. I don't rate Kulu but apparently Ange does, we've been told this repeatedly. And he did choose Werner and Johnson, neither of which I rate but err .. he wanted, by all accounts.
You seem to have endless faith that he will just upgrade our average forwards as if he hasn't had a big hand in obtaining some of the ones we already have, and as if this club has a track record recently of going out and getting really good forwards. It's delusional and baseless, like most of your posts.
It changes people's faith in Ange and probably makes a large number of people think that he's probably not up to the job and getting someone else would be a good idea.
I'm pretty much in the give Ange more time but I have no expectation it will work out camp. We should indicate we're willing to stick to something for longer, I'm just not convinced this is the thing we should stick to.
Stop acting like an oppressed little snowflake, trying to be offended by everything is generally an illness, don't be that guy please.
Fine, if your concern is that we won't replace the forwards adequately then that's fine but that doesn't alter my point about where we lack and that's forward areas, you asked where the balance was, there's your balance.
You can carry on all you want and speculate how I 'act like' I already said that those questioning his player ID so far in those areas are well justified so I'm not sure what your point is?
Why does it?
It's not like it was objectively better in terms of process or result.
It's just a couple of fans on a forum debating if it was minimally better or worse either way.
If you are saying you are in the camp of giving him more time but you don't think it will work, what is the point in that? Seems more like you are fence-sitting to appear balanced but in reality taking every opportunity to be negative.
Asking people if they have dementia because you've misunderstood their point (just like you did with the Osimhen point the other day) is just dumb. I'd suggest you stop it purely on the basis of you being the one with comprehension issues more than anything else.
It's the best camp to be in because you're firmly sitting on the fence, that way you can never be wrong
