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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Trust you to spectacularly miss the point, you utter dumbo
You're having a mare this morning, log off for a few days and focus on being a better human if your actual day job is to serve and protect.
The article is unfairly snide (which, by the way, underlines why it was so important we lost. Imagine what they would have said if we won).
But the last line rings true. You don’t get to say results don’t matter, because you’re working towards a more important goal, but then whinge when fans do the same.
He’s handled this week badly. Needs to keep a calmer head.
where is this racist chanting story coming from? not seen it.Fan 1"Just got thrown out of the stadium"
Fan 2 "What did you say mate"
Fan 1 "Just a load of racist chanting, you know the usual, added a bit of homophobia as well"
Fan 2 "That's crazy, I thought we lived in a democratic society"
Fan 1 " I know mate, shocking"
If he was doing that then fuck him.
Not all affected by key injuries or suspensions or inadequacy of front line etc.?!
Only Eddie Howe is allowed to have pity for his injury crisis.
Much like all the good players that have come in are Paratici's boys and all the "Shit" ones are Ange's talent ID.
Trust you to spectacularly miss the point, you utter dumbo
You're having a mare this morning, log off for a few days and focus on being a better human if your actual day job is to serve and protect.
Shady you have a mare every morning.
It was a shit point. One is hate speech literally not permitted democratically, the other is saying pretty please Ange don’t win this game my neighbour will make fun of me.
He wasn’t. Can see why you’d get confused as he’s done some insane comparison between racism and asking Ange to lose a game.
Where did Ange whinge about fans?
You've done it again LMAO
The point was about democracy, you can't just whatever you want because we live in a free world because there's always consequences.
I wasn't comparing, I'm just using the alternative as an extreme example.
There's no way you're this thick in real life
The press conference, the ‘inside and outside’ comment and his barely veiled disgust at everything going on. It was clearly directed at a ‘portion’ of the fan base.
He shit the bed.
It was a horrific week. We just need to draw a line under it and forget it ever happened.
No you’re being a total prat as usual.
Society set certain things apart from free speech a long time ago. The rest is fair game and nobody gets to arbitrarily say you’re not allowed to say shit like you want us to lose.
‘well ur not allowed 2 be racist so why should u be allowed to say we should lose?’
Absolute car-crash.
Funny how he said "inside AND outside" but only the "outside" part gathered momentum on the interwebs.
Maybe people just like having a moan.
Of course. But that’s because it’s more unusual for a manager to question fans. Not unheard of, but unusual.
Change your name to Karen Arlison!!
When we sell Richy in the summer I might have to
That wasn’t about the fans though.
He said the post game itw that it wasn’t the normal atmosphere but they just have to deal with it.
Wasn’t offering it as an excuse
Well actually, when you attend a Spurs game you are a guest on private property, and a licensor can eject anyone from it's premises for any reason, right down to not liking the look of your face, or not wearing the right shoes. This is not a question of free speech, it's about what conduct is permitted inside the stadium by the powers that be.
End of the day, I think a lot of fans got their knickers in a twist. Ange probably did too on reflection.
Ultimately, Ange is trying to re-frame the culture. His job is to win and instil a winning mentality within the club (in before melts post snapshots of last 5 games results etc.)
Unusual is a good word in this context. It was a fucking unusual game.
That’s a completely different argument to the one being made. Of course they can eject you if they want to.
Not sure that's true at all.
Lets look at last season. Last 19 games of 2022/23 - 8 wins, 3 draws, 8 losses. 1.42PPG (54 points over a season)
Two seasons before that? Last 19 games of 2020/21 - 9 wins, 2 draws, 8 losses. 1.53 PPG (58 points over a season)
Pochs last 19 games in charge? - 6 wins, 6 draws, 7 losses. 1.26 PPG (48 points over a season).
Go back even further. Redknapps last season in charge? 7 wins, 6 draws, 6 losses, 1.42PPG (54 points over a season)
Now if we beat Sheffield United, which we will do. This will be our last 19 games of 2023/24:
9 wins, 3 draws, 7 losses. 1.58 PPG (60 points over the course of a season).
By the way, let's look at Villas last 19 games (and let's just say they draw with Palace). 8 wins, 6 draws, 5 losses. 1.58 PPG. IDENTICAL to our half of the season in terms of points... Of course they could lose to Palace which means they'd have done worse in the last half of the season than we have...
This most definitely isn't our worst run of results since Ramos or in over 20 years at all. And if anything, shows us that this is usually a typical Tottenham season.
Start well. Tail off a bit. Hit some form again. Finish weak.
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The entire conversation was in the context of a fan being ejected from the stadium, not about people being dragged out of their beds by the gestapo for their online opinions.