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He's not wrong. But to explode and do that in the presser is fuck wrong. We can hate, criticised and condemned Levy all we want, but he's one measured man, like many respected and successful men and women, who will never break into a fiery outburst openly.
Could just be a cultural thing. Conte's a really passionate guy and doesn't seem to ever hold back his feelings. You remember those celebrations sometimes when we scored. He went mental. :contefists:
 
He's not wrong. But to explode and do that in the presser is fuck wrong. We can hate, criticised and condemned Levy all we want, but he's one measured man, like many respected and successful men and women, who will never break into a fiery outburst openly.
Why was AC wrong to go on a rant like he did? Enlighten me, please.

At some point we need to get our heads out of our arses, and call a spade a spade. All that we don't air our dirty laundry in public is bs IMHO. Conte quite probably spent weeks behind close doors trying to get his message through Levy's thick skull, got nowhere in the end so got uber frustrated and was left with no other option. He certainly wasn't gonna leave with his tail between his legs, that ain't who he was as a player and as a manager he's even more fiery.

He did Spurs a favour and I'll never be mad at him for it. And let me point out that I'm not that big a fan of the man, coach and his football. But I bloody love & respect him for that rant.

Levy is our great club's cancer. Always has been, always will be. He's right up there as one of the most inept chairmen in football. He's certainly not Spurs...never was, never will be...despite his lame ass claims of loving Tottenham and going to the Lane as a kid.

If you can't see that shooting down whoever dares speak the truth and kissing Levy's ass is one of the reasons this club's going nowhere good, well I don't know what to tell you, pal.
 
He'll always be a legend in my eyes for speaking up and exposing them for what they are. Revealed the rotten, stinking swindle for what it truly is.

One day, in a not too distant future with new progressive owners that prioritise football, people will come to appreciate his contribution to the outing of the cabal currently milking our fans and our club.


Respect. .:adesalute:
Who knew you were such a poet, Jonny lad.

Absolutely spot on there my friend.
 
So what's Ange gotta do, if he's supposed to rebuild the squad. Promote half the academy? And someone did mention, what's considered backing if Levy could be giving Ange cheaper alternatives in some cases when Ange was possibly asking for others?
It could be that he's not getting the full backing but I'd say it's still a lot more than what Conte got.
Gray and Bergvall are probably not his signings as he's hardly using any of them.
BJ on the other hand was definitely for him. 50 M. Then Solanke this season. Did Conte get any kind of backing like that?
 
He's not wrong. But to explode and do that in the presser is fuck wrong. We can hate, criticised and condemned Levy all we want, but he's one measured man, like many respected and successful men and women, who will never break into a fiery outburst openly.
If I was Conte I would have been far more aggressive, possibly even hurling my wig at him (although he'd probably keep it to sell on eBay).
 
Only the first part is true- he has never managed at this level.

South Melbourne, Brisbane and Yokohama did not give him access to the best players in the league. As for Celtic, the club was a shambles when he came in and he re-built it, mainly on the back of 3 Japanese lads he brought with him, only one of which gets selected for the Japanese national team meaning they're not the best in Japan let alone the SPL.

I've watched his career over the last 20 years. I've said it before but this Tottenham team is not playing the type of football I know as Angeball-even the Socceroos did it better at the WC.
Ange-Ball and his philosophy can't be sustained in The EPL!
 
If I was Conte I would have been far more aggressive, possibly even hurling my wig at him (although he'd probably keep it to sell on eBay).
Nah man, he'd have put it on display at the club's museum for a limited time only...VIP access, 2k a ticket. And he'd have sold us all the tale about how he brilliantly defeated Antonio in a savage bare knuckle bout.
 
I need a pic of Levy in a Conte wig now.

tart tart any chance?
Would grealish do?



















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I think that Pleat was one of if not his main source within the club. O'Keefe was starting to get more bitey during last season but it definitely took an upward tick once Pleat left.
It became obvious during the summer that his source for transfer dealings had dried up, probably as a result of Lange playing his cards close to his chest and wanting things done without the numerous leaks.

He started getting more and more snidey with his comments over the summer, and now comes across as playing to the gallery for clicks, slagging off the club at any, and every opportunity.

I just roll my eyes now when I see one of his posts! 🙄
 
The problem is we don’t know if he is capable of doing this project because he’s NEVER REMOTELY been in this situation before. He hasn’t managed anywhere near this level AND he’s never not had access to the best players in any league he’s operated in.

We will never know unless we give him some time. A season and 10 games is not much really, and despite what some say we're not in any danger here. Levy isn't going to let us get relegated or even close, so not sure why people are filled with such dread and panic.
At the end of the day its still football, and I think he now has better tools at his disposal than Celtic or Brisbane so yep the level is higher but he does have better tools to level things up. Everywhere he has gone its been a step up, so he has in some respects being preparing for this type of position by adapting to the new tougher challenges in each job he has taken.

I think part of the issue for some (this is not to you) is that he is Australian. This simple fact disqualified him right away in some people's eyes.

People are quick to dismiss him, but we have a guy that couldn't be more determined! He is not just here for a paycheck, he has a lot of doubters and you can see he wants to win trophies, prove them wrong and show his methods can win in the PL.
I wish we could all appreciate that and try to support him more... The big swings between in and out are pretty soul destroying.

This idea (not that you’ve said it but others point to it) that you have to give managers time as a default because of Fergie or Arteta is nonsense. There are way more times when a manager is given too much time and the inevitable should have happened sooner. Ten Haag. Soljskaer, Gerry Francis - look at the way Arse got rid of Bruce Rioch after one season to bring in Wenger etc.
You have to chart your progress subjectively along the way and essentially continually work out the main question for any manager i.e is he capable of getting more (or at least equal) out of this team than the sum of its parts.
In this sense, it’s always harder at THFC because the manager is always required to get more than the sum, because transfer wise we rarely dine at the top table because of our fuckwit chairman.

And Sunday was an absolutely shocking marker for tracking our progress. Coming off that 2nd half vs Brighton and in our next away game we produce that insipid garbage.
Our away form is absolutely shocking. At home we seem to be adept at putting away teams outside of those competing for the top 6. This pattern will NOT keep Ange in his job past the summer and rightly so. 2 big home games coming up now, can we dispense of some quality opposition at our own house - another progress marker.

Many of us are not Ange OUT, we’re just very concerned.

Well in fairness I have cited those two as reasons to be patient :dierno:
Not just because of them alone though! I do believe he deserves the season at least unless we are not winning any games or some crazy situation like that. He has shown enough glimpses of what a final form Ange team could look like, and in all fairness I think not many could complain about that type of football... when it works!

Some progress I have seen are:
Defending has been worked on - set plays and high line goals... much better.
Attacking is starting to improve - less of that crab football, more good chances created and more goals scored.
Solanke is immense and he looks a great signing.

Problem though is in fixing that defensive stuff, now we are struck by a lot of individual errors costing us. Players are in position but still manage to fuck up.. not tactics. Ange needs to find the balance. Maybe Udogie is playing too much following his injury? Leading to quite a few mistakes. He is young though as well.

Away form.. yes its rancid. The Brighton and Palace games especially. I think in fairness to Ange this is not unique to him, it has plagued us for years. That said, he has to start getting them to be tougher and not being so damn complacent.
I really think the players are more to blame, they are a little immature and complacent. I think they see these shit stadiums of other teams and think they'll wipe the floor with them in 2nd gear because they are surrounded with such riches of stadium and training facilities. Might be wrong but its a natural human reaction sometimes, and given how young many of them are..

The response after the Brighton game was a good one, and after a break too. We at least broke a jinx of sorts and won against one of the top 3 (London team) rivals. Lets hope we have a similar response tonight and go out there fighting for every single ball, and be ruthless to get into the next round

By the way im sorry my post is so fucking long.. being succinct is difficult for me
 
Why was AC wrong to go on a rant like he did? Enlighten me, please.

At some point we need to get our heads out of our arses, and call a spade a spade. All that we don't air our dirty laundry in public is bs IMHO. Conte quite probably spent weeks behind close doors trying to get his message through Levy's thick skull, got nowhere in the end so got uber frustrated and was left with no other option. He certainly wasn't gonna leave with his tail between his legs, that ain't who he was as a player and as a manager he's even more fiery.

He did Spurs a favour and I'll never be mad at him for it. And let me point out that I'm not that big a fan of the man, coach and his football. But I bloody love & respect him for that rant.

Levy is our great club's cancer. Always has been, always will be. He's right up there as one of the most inept chairmen in football. He's certainly not Spurs...never was, never will be...despite his lame ass claims of loving Tottenham and going to the Lane as a kid.

If you can't see that shooting down whoever dares speak the truth and kissing Levy's ass is one of the reasons this club's going nowhere good, well I don't know what to tell you, pal.
Nah man. I already mentioned I'm all for his honesty. Just not the manner. People of such volatile temperament can't be trusted, IMVHO. His explosive rant wouldn't be his last, and might not be his first, could be to the players during training we don't know.

He could speak to Levy directly, to the players directly and to the board directly, in discreet, about his rant and piss take and what not, then he can come out and tell the world, all done professionally - that'll be all good. That disgraceful presser said more about him first then the club. Not sure he will regret that in the future, I hope he does, for any last ounce of respect I have for him.
 
Why was AC wrong to go on a rant like he did? Enlighten me, please.
Seriously??!! 😳

Whatever you say behind closed doors, you don’t do what he did and broadcast your feelings to the world’s media.

It matters that you don’t bring the club, and your employer into disrepute, especially in the manner in which he did.

It’s basic management and PR skills FFS!

If you’re in a management role at work, of course you can have pretty frank conversations with your managers above, but nothing shoots yourself in the foot more than to run off your mouth publicly, disrespecting your peers to your work colleagues.

It’s a simple matter of respect!
 
It's very weird.

Perhaps not quite as weird as those people who are desperate for the current Spurs manager to fail though? :ange-blow::D
Doubt any true Tottenham fan wants a Spurs manager to fail. If anything the 'negative' comments are born out of frustration because they want to see him succeed and believe he would if he could allow himself to be a little more 'flexible' sometimes in games.
 
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