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Well Haaland as you say has/will cost City far more than Solanke cost Spurs.
Same goes for so many of the players our rivals sign for "similar" fees and the real reason I fucking hate people citing the net spend chart as a reason we do spend.

Arseholes up the road spend around £60,000,000 a year more than us on wages.
Who cares if we spent £5m more than them one summer on fees. (I made that up, I don't know if we did or by how much)
 
Same goes for so many of the players our rivals sign for "similar" fees and the real reason I fucking hate people citing the net spend chart as a reason we do spend.

Arseholes up the road spend around £60,000,000 a year more than us on wages.
Who cares if we spent £5m more than them one summer on fees. (I made that up, I don't know if we did or by how much)
Yeah the wages need to be taken into consideration for each player when making an assessment for overall spends. Not just the sign on free.
 
Same goes for so many of the players our rivals sign for "similar" fees and the real reason I fucking hate people citing the net spend chart as a reason we do spend.

Arseholes up the road spend around £60,000,000 a year more than us on wages.
Who cares if we spent £5m more than them one summer on fees. (I made that up, I don't know if we did or by how much)

Lol - mate if we were spending 30m a year in wages on Jesus & Havertz people would be puking themselves into a coma.
 
Yeah the wages need to be taken into consideration for each player when making an assessment for overall spends. Not just the sign on free.

There is a lot that has to be taken into consideration -

You have to go look at the individual amounts for each player and how long they have been at the club -

So lets look at Liverpool, which i think is a comparable team in terms of average wages for players when they sign right now - they are reportedly spending around 14 million more on their squad than we are a year. 30 million a year on Salah and VDV who are being rewarded for their loyalty and to keep them there for as long as they have.

They don't sign players for anywhere near that value - Diaz is on around 60k a week for example. Archie Gray is on more.

So when Salah and VDV leave they are not going to be paying 250k-350k a week for new players - they never have done and there is no reason to think they will.... so if they were even to bring in two replacements for 150k a week each they would have the same wage bill pretty much as us.
 
There is a lot that has to be taken into consideration -

You have to go look at the individual amounts for each player and how long they have been at the club -

So lets look at Liverpool, which i think is a comparable team in terms of average wages for players when they sign right now - they are reportedly spending around 14 million more on their squad than we are a year. 30 million a year on Salah and VDV who are being rewarded for their loyalty and to keep them there for as long as they have.

They don't sign players for anywhere near that value - Diaz is on around 60k a week for example. Archie Gray is on more.

So when Salah and VDV leave they are not going to be paying 250k-350k a week for new players - they never have done and there is no reason to think they will.... so if they were even to bring in two replacements for 150k a week each they would have the same wage bill pretty much as us.
I think Son is on £190,000 pw. I doubt we'll be spending that on a replacement when he leaves.

Richarlison and Solanke are on about £90,000 pw, which I assume is what we'll pay for a new attacker as in someone that is already established in the game that our leaders think is good. I doubt we'd pay £150.000 per week for a new player, as you stated for Liverpool.
 
I think Son is on £190,000 pw. I doubt we'll be spending that on a replacement when he leaves.

Richarlison and Solanke are on about £90,000 pw, which I assume is what we'll pay for a new attacker as in someone that is already established in the game that our leaders think is good. I doubt we'd pay £150.000 per week as you stated for Liverpool.

We normally double a players wage from their previous club when we sign them so I guess it depends on who we sign really and what kind of profile they are.
 
I think Son is on £190,000 pw. I doubt we'll be spending that on a replacement when he leaves.

Richarlison and Solanke are on about £90,000 pw, which I assume is what we'll pay for a new attacker as in someone that is already established in the game that our leaders think is good. I doubt we'd pay £150.000 per week for a new player, as you stated for Liverpool.

Maddison was brought in on 170 i believe - Perisic on 180, Romero on 160.....

Udogie, Gray on 75 right now....
 
Udogie, Gray on 75 right now....
I think it's about that we'll be looking at going forward, with this new bring in youth policy.

But just ignoring Maddison because it doesnt fit?
No I'm not ignoring Maddison, since Conte left he's been the exception to the rule wage-wise, overall our wage bill is reducing with this bring in youth policy. Our overall wage bill is on the trend of going down.
 
I think it's about that we'll be looking at going forward, with this new bring in youth policy.


No I'm not ignoring Maddison, since Conte left he's been the exception to the rule wage-wise, overall our wage bill is reducing with this bring in youth policy. Our overall wage bill is on the trend of going down.

It's all relative and contextual.

Just because Woolwich are happy to pay stupid wages for players that arent worth it, it means we should too?

We are at a different stage in our development to them - when they first bought Martinelli, Odegaard, Gabriel, Saliba 3-4 years ago they had a similar wage bill to ours - most of their players - especially the new, young ones were on 70k or less but all have improved contracts given as the years and their performances go on - plus also, when you pay someone like Haavertz nearly 300k a week you need to bump up the rest of them to keep them happy.

If our wages are still where they are now in 2 years time then we have a problem, but i expect the likes of VDV, Udogie, Sarr, Porro, Johnson, Odobert, Bergvall's wages to all increase, some quite significantly over the next couple of years,
 
If our wages are still where they are now in 2 years time then we have a problem, but i expect the likes of VDV, Udogie, Sarr, Porro, Johnson, Odobert, Bergvall's wages to all increase, some quite significantly over the next couple of years,
I'm not going to try and predict the future beyond stating that recently our overall wage bill has been reducing.

Getting back onto topic, There's a good chance Ange will not be Spurs manager in two years and a new manager might not want those players that you mentioned.
 
The grass may not be greener on the other side.

But it has an equal, if not higher chance of being greener.

25 years of mediocrity, No other owners have lasted this long and some have done more.

Of course it will change. Could it get worse ? Yeah it could , but it could get a hell of a lot better aswell. And if you are right and nothing changes, then we’ve lost nothing have we .

I think most fans just want owners that are going to make the team the priority. Go that extra yard to get the manager the player that he actually wants rather than giving him a third or 4th choice. An owner that will inject some enthusiasm and energy into the club. It doesn’t have to even be about money. Just someone that actually gives off the vibe that they care , can blow away a dark cloud over a club. And boy is th cloud dark over this club
I'm just saying that those who desperately want ENIC out should do so with expectations tempered and not build it up too much. Disappointment at not reaching heightened expectations can be upsetting.

As for your last sentence Justin it is all perspective. You say dark cloud, a Soton or Derby fan might chuckle in derision at that statement. Last decade we've played in Europe all but 1 season, made a cup final and UCL final. Dark cloud to describe Tottenham to most fans in football would seem to be the whining of spoilt brats. We still have it better than 99% of clubs in Europe.
 
I'm not going to try and predict the future beyond stating that recently our overall wage bill has been reducing.

Getting back onto topic, There's a good chance Ange will not be Spurs manager in two years and a new manager might not want those players that you mentioned.

I mean, if we want to be fully honest, it has reduced once recently, and previous to that it has been increasing year on year for some time.
 
I'm just saying that those who desperately want ENIC out should do so with expectations tempered and not build it up too much. Disappointment at not reaching heightened expectations can be upsetting.

As for your last sentence Justin it is all perspective. You say dark cloud, a Soton or Derby fan might chuckle in derision at that statement. Last decade we've played in Europe all but 1 season, made a cup final and UCL final. Dark cloud to describe Tottenham to most fans in football would seem to be the whining of spoilt brats. We still have it better than 99% of clubs in Europe.
We also pay more for tickets than 100% of clubs in Europe, and have the lowest wage vs turnover ratio % than all 150 professional clubs in England

By that metric, Dorking Wanderers are more ambitious - if you think our fans are spoilt brats, you are quite the cunt
 
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