Looks a lot like our current lineup:
Vic
Romero - VDV
Benta-Sarr
Porro-Kulu-Maddison-Son
Solanke
Romero - VDV
Benta-Sarr
Porro-Kulu-Maddison-Son
Solanke
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Thing is, everyone seems hell bent on a coach being the silver bullet but the team that Poch stumbled into is more what we need again.
Who is our Kane, Son, Dembele, Dele and Eriksen Mark 2?
I wonder how likely we are to recruit a team that good ever again. And tbh when you see what Maresca is doing with the same squad Poch had, part of me wonders if we slightly overrate Poch’s role in that team rising to the level it did.
Probably stick to what he does. Pep is a philosopher too, one suited to the top echelon of clubs. An elite coach for sure but the way he's been of late at City has pretty much proven he's terrible at handling adversity as a coach. He's a perfectionist so if you give him brilliant musicians he will be the best conductor possible but with average musicians he's as likely to start lobbing violins at them as he is to improve them.
I think that’s pretty likely.
It’s going to be interesting to see how long he sticks around with City in such a big mess.
Maybe Worse. Pep would be a horror show at this club and I say that as someone who accepts he is one of the greatest managers of all time. He plays such a high risk technical style and it works brilliantly with the right players but getting our players to attempt it would be nuts, we are miles off any attempt at that.
I wonder if people would be calling him a bald fraud
It would expose just how ill suited we are to supporting a ‘philosophy’. Yeh there would still be fans who think he is shit or past it. I do feel sorry for managers who manage us, what a horrific job it is.
Pochettino was literally the one who put Maresca on this path. Their form before he was sacked was as good as anything they've been this season - the pathway was set. He guided them through a very difficult period with 500 players, finally got some cohesion together and Caicedo, Palmer etc performing and then he got sacked, probably for political reasons as much as anything else.
Agree, really horrendous and very embarrassing, unthinkable at this level.
Maybe but I think Southgate will have a sense of unfinished business having not got over the line with England. And if Levy can get Conte to come I reckon he could find the levers to convince Southgate if he (Levy) felt there was no other option.
Having said that I don't think the people around Levy will agree and push for a more progressive manager that's more in line with our recent squad building. Is that a plus for an Iraola type? Hopefully...
I remember someone describing him as a boutique manager, and thats pretty apt. He may well be the most brilliant coach ever, certainly of my lifetime. But I think he would go off kilter or maybe even lose a bit of hunger if he didn't have the elite options available to enact his football. Less that he "couldn't" do it with lesser players. More that he wouldn't care to do so because he couldn't achieve the level on the pitch that would excite him.
We're seeing it now. Or the start of it at least.
I know a few Chav fans and they were ropable that Poch left after having finally made the team into something functional.
I'm sure they aren't complaining now after Maresca has built on those foundations but Poch absolutely did the heavy lifting
Maresca has taken them up a level though and it was still a billion pound squad of talent.
Poch isn’t a bad coach, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m mainly saying is the quality of talent was the biggest factor in that team we had reaching the levels it did.
How likely are we to turn a 5m Championship kid into another Dele? Or another Kane to come through our academy? Or even another Walker from a Sheffield UTD?
Has he? They're basically a top 4 side. Their title challenge thing was a myth and they're within a couple of points of Forest. I can't be arsed to look but I'm almost certain Pochettino prior to his sacking was in the top 3 in the form table. They won nearly all their end of season games including piecing us up. Maresca came in to a team where Caicedo etc had settled, his job was to finetune and apply his own preferences.
I feel like there's been a huge about turn on this forum. A lot of people (I swear including you?) were waxing lyrical about the talent we had not long ago. Yeah it still needed work and depth but people have gone from overrating to underrating the squad weirdly. We have a collection of useful footballers and some genuinely promising young talent under the right circs.
Babel translate: He's got three games.
I don’t believe he has the heart for what’s in front of him, but he knows that if he walks he’s going to get labelled as a quitter for walking away when the going got tough for the first time in his career.
How he must wish he’d left in the summer, I bet if he could turn back turn time he’d do exactly that.
Three more games pissed against a wall then
Well that's the least inspiring vote of confidence ever.
Basically, we don't want to sack you .. but these results are shit and if they don't improve, we will if we have to.
I think if he doesn't get at least 4 points from the next 3 it will force their hand.