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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
So Beyonce is making six appearances at at our ground, more than Romero and Odebert?
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Players say he isn’t friendly with them, doesn’t talk directly to them one on one and that he’s not on the training pitch. And obviously doesn’t do tactical work. Radu and Dier interviews have been very similar.
A head coach not being super involved in day to day training in and of itself is not that unusual. Pochettino, Mourinho and Ferguson are all known to take this approach.

The difference being that they all have long established coaching staffs that know their boss' tactics and system and how to implement it. So the manager can focus on planning for the next game and evaluating training rather than leading it.
 
He did rotate very aggressively in EL though

Yes, until some point he did.
And it also worked. I even had no problems letting Galatasaray game slide. It was not a good performance, but to me it was OK. Cause he went with rotated side and gave some youth chance.

But like with very many working solutions, Ange decided to drop that take a different route.
Of crippling the same XI.

What a genius move. Weird he now rants about it, like it was not intentional.
 
A head coach not being super involved in day to day training in and of itself is not that unusual. Pochettino, Mourinho and Ferguson are all known to take this approach.

The difference being that they all have long established coaching staffs that know their boss' tactics and system and how to implement it. So the manager can focus on planning for the next game and evaluating training rather than leading it.
Mate, I’ve seen countless videos with Poch and Jose on the training pitch. Conte too.

The calibre of our coaching staff (and clearly the loss of Chris Davies) is one of many of the problems that are now all culminating at the same time.

If he’s not hands on, he certainly has to now. In any managerial job, where the shit hits the fan you have to get stuck in.
 
This is the simple truth.

Think of every decent side Spurs have ever had and there was at least one stand out player in the middle.

McKay, Hoddle, Gascoigne, Modric, Davids, Eriksen, Dembele.

The sides that didn't have a central midfield player of that calibre were more often than not; bang average.

Having said all of that; Bentancur is the best we have at the moment in that position and he has got worse under Ange.

The majority of his performances have been tepid and half hearted.

At least he isn't pretending to be injured though.
liverpool played a weak midfield against plymouth and despite having diaz whos probably the best forward in the league right now, they looked pretty average didnt they. you need big players in the midfield its as simple as that, you also need a system that keeps the big boys in the actual midfield so they can have a huge say in the result of the game! theres a reason rodri never really leaves that heart of the pitch.
 
A head coach not being super involved in day to day training in and of itself is not that unusual. Pochettino, Mourinho and Ferguson are all known to take this approach.

The difference being that they all have long established coaching staffs that know their boss' tactics and system and how to implement it. So the manager can focus on planning for the next game and evaluating training rather than leading it.
I was saying this to my dad yesterday. How all these super-coaches have very close knit coaching staff that know exactly what they want and need.
Ange just drifts from one club to the next on his own.
Worth noting he's had 11 jobs in 29 years. The longest stints were at international level where nothing happens for months at a time.
His stint at the amazing Whittlesea Zebra's yielded a 12.5% win ratio.

And still people take his career seriously.
 
Mate, I’ve seen countless videos with Poch and Jose on the training pitch. Conte too.

The calibre of our coaching staff (and clearly the loss of Chris Davies) is one of many of the problems that are now all culminating at the same time.

If he’s not hands on, he certainly has to now. In any managerial job, where the shit hits the fan you have to get stuck in.
Oh I never meant to imply that Poch or Jose weren't involved in training. But they also had periods were they handed it off to the assistants.
 
Yes, until some point he did.
And it also worked. I even had no problems letting Galatasaray game slide. It was not a good performance, but to me it was OK. Cause he went with rotated side and gave some youth chance.

But like with very many working solutions, Ange decided to drop that take a different route.
Of crippling the same XI.

What a genius move. Weird he now rants about it, like it was not intentional.
ange is for ange. once he got on the ropes he stopped rotating and started rushing starters back from injury
 
No chance.
They're just ignorantly unaware as to how bad things really are. They've bought the injury excuse hook line and sinker. They're as delusional as some of the posters on here.
Which terrifies me. Because if that's true, they'll probably throw another £100m at him in the summer and it'll all happen the same way again.

The only certainty is I am sick of the current situation. Absolutely insufferable.
 
if i were ange i would put a female in the starting line pl:)us a female coach on the beanch
with all the esg rating he will never be put in bad light
 
liverpool played a weak midfield against plymouth and despite having diaz whos probably the best forward in the league right now, they looked pretty average didnt they. you need big players in the midfield its as simple as that, you also need a system that keeps the big boys in the actual midfield so they can have a huge say in the result of the game! theres a reason rodri never really leaves that heart of the pitch.

Liverpool losing to Plymouth, whilst big news and a big, big upset, is an isolated event for them.
Nobody saw it coming and it took a penalty and stout defending to win against them.
Liverpool were on top by almost every possible metric. But they had one of those days, away to a team that showed up.

We on the other hand, expect to lose every fucking match now. Every game. We were damn well lucky not to lose in the 90 minutes to non league Tamworth.
It took two very late goals to win against Coventry.
We lost to Palace, Ipswich and Leicester. 2 of them at home!

We lose so much more often than we win.
 
I was saying this to my dad yesterday. How all these super-coaches have very close knit coaching staff that know exactly what they want and need.
Ange just drifts from one club to the next on his own.
Worth noting he's had 11 jobs in 29 years. The longest stints were at international level where nothing happens for months at a time.
His stint at the amazing Whittlesea Zebra's yielded a 12.5% win ratio.

And still people take his career seriously.
I've posted before, but his career stats are absolutely mediocre. He's living off vibes.

His Australia NT win ratio (45%) was lower than the permanent managers either side of him (52%, 57%). He had basically the same success at Celtic as Neil Lennon and Brendan Rodgers. All the others are in Leagues ranked lower than the Championship, and even then he hardly ever broke a 50% win rate.
 
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