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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Managers will still come

If you’re the manager of Bournemouth, Ipswich etc you’re coming

Any Spanish club outside the big 4, Dutch league etc they’ll all come


Only exception I think is some of the Italian clubs

The money on offer is just too much and curiously levy does pay managers very well …. It’s afterwards it all gets messy

What he doesn’t like doing is paying compensation to get the talent out of clubs which has definitely caused us bother in recent times … but actually managers wanting to come I genuinely don’t have a worry about this

imo he’s not gonna sack Ange til end of season he’s got good time to line up the right replacement without the previous clown show

Just my two cents worth
I said "great managers"!

:sonpoint:
 
Some of us do follow from other continents, however we wouldn't consider our connection to the club to be "casual"- something more like "tragically addicted to" or "cursedly obsessed with" is more appropriate.
I forget if I have asked already but where are you based? Bangkok?

What sort of dickhead gets up in the middle of the night to watch Spurs lose.

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Independent's version:


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Overall, it does appear that Spurs have had the worst injury problems in the league this season.

In addition to currently having 11 players out, the length of the different layoffs – and the importance of the various players – mean that Postecoglou probably does deserve some slack.


The starting centre-back pairing of Romero and van de Ven have been out since October, with the Argentine having foot and ankle problems and the Dutchman suffering hamstring issues. Both were rushed back for the December match against Chelsea, but neither finished the game and they’ve been suffering issues ever since.

Vicario has been out since the end of November, while another starting defender, Destiny Udogie, has been out since the end of 2024, and they are now lacking cover at centre-back after the injury to Dragusin.

In midfield, Rodrigo Bentancur missed two league matches through concussion, while Pape Sarr missed two matches this year with a knock and James Maddison has been out since the end of January.

Brennan Johnson has been out since mid-January with a calf strain, with Dominic Solanke suffering a knee injury around the same time.

Wilson Odobert has been out since September, while Richarlison has missed a total of 15 games in the league and was then forced off against Brentford last week. Finally, Werner has been out since the beginning of 2025.



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"It’s abundantly clear that the game model puts an excessive physical load on the players. There are a lot more stats I can get into with regards to accelerations, distances between zonal substructures, and recovery-related stats. Unfortunately, they are only available to the coaching staff at the club, but the metrics I have mentioned still prove the point objectively and conclusively."

Even if he has the worst injury crisis, who cares? We were shit before the injury crisis, we'll be shit after it. He had his whole first choice XI available for the run in at the end of last season, it was one of the worst spells of games I've ever seen from a Spurs team.

And his batshit style of football directly leads to more injuries. So you have to bake it into the model.
 
Assuming you think this is a clever response, I never said Conte was a bad manager. In fact, he's one of the best of the modern era. But he was a terrible fit for Spurs and hence why he only lasted here 14 months. I worry Inzaghi would be similar - not necessarily in temperament, but in a defensive style that seems to suit Italian football more than the top level of the Prem.

I don't think we have hired bad managers (Gross Neal, and Francis aside).

This "terrible fit" is often used and really means nothing when you look at a PL novice like Nuno and the multi-trophies manager's of Jose and Conte that have prior to us and after us gone and made a mockery of being fired form all the wrong reasons.

Let Munn hire the next one, and Levy sit back and run the commercial side, after all isn't Munn here to run football operations?

Watched Inter this afternoon, terrific side, great system and tactics and three centre backs who stay in the home half. Top scorers in Serie A and a manager who is motivating his team from minute one.

We could easily afford him and not worry on the least if we lost the ball in midfield. Super tactician. May never happen but he's done a great job on the fraction of the budget Ange has wasted.

Team works very hard, Iraola like in commitment.
 
You might be thinking of Palace or Chelsea. Both 3 nil, both fucking awful. Woolwich away wasn't much better.

Glad Nuno is doing well but he was a fucking awful Spurs manager.

Nuno was given no time, the team he has put together with a fraction of the budget is playing exciting, on the front foot football, and coached better than Ange could ever hope to do.

Ange is a 21/42 manager and sleeps like a baby each night, a fraud who when every player is back fit, won't nudge a win percentage worth a shit.

The players love him, only because he doesn't question a mistake they make.
 

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"It’s abundantly clear that the game model puts an excessive physical load on the players. There are a lot more stats I can get into with regards to accelerations, distances between zonal substructures, and recovery-related stats. Unfortunately, they are only available to the coaching staff at the club, but the metrics I have mentioned still prove the point objectively and conclusively."

Even if he has the worst injury crisis, who cares? We were shit before the injury crisis, we'll be shit after it. He had his whole first choice XI available for the run in at the end of last season, it was one of the worst spells of games I've ever seen from a Spurs team.

And his batshit style of football directly leads to more injuries. So you have to bake it into the model.


To be fair, at the end of last season we played Newcastle (A), Woolwich, Chelsea (A), Liverpool (A) and City. All teams that have mature squads and are better than us; and fixtures we'd probably expect to lose in the first season of a complete squad overhaul.

Finishing 5th, after losing Kane and bedding in a brand new squad and system was a huge achievement.
 
Adjust how? And when?

The last time Spurs had 5 days break between games was in November.

We are playing with a different starting 11 every single week, without little in-between to train. Tel and Danso played 2 games having not had a single training session with the squad.

Son, Kulu and Porro have been the only players consistently available. No other team in history had had this level of players unavailable.

We've prepared, set up and trained a system of play. To completely adjust that mid season, within just 2 or 3 days, with a random group of players depending on who is fit is pure fantasy.
Ange isn't managing the worst injury crisis in history. Ange isn't the only one to have ever managed a team playing twice a week. Injuries counts are high for many teams this season, yes even Villa had their key players out in the FA Cup match on Sunday. We've lost or drawn to every team below us this season, even with a full squad - Southampton and Ipswich are conveniently forgotten - where have our high standards gone? Conte managed injuries (yes it was bad) and got the sack after dropping out of the top four while telling the truth in a press conference (it was hard to hear as a fan, but admittedly he was right).

How has Ange convinced so many that being in cup competitions and playing multiple times a week is a bad thing?

It's the whole damn point of being a successful club!!

Before Ange, we used to banter rivals for not playing in Europe and dropping out of cups. We bantered Arse for playing Europa on a Thursday instead of a Wednesday in the UCL like we were. What has happened to this club's ambitions?

Ange speaks and his disciples listen. Each new proclamation nullifies previous words uttered. Anyone calling him out on his blatant inconsistencies and hypocrisy is a part of the grand agenda against him. What the fuck has happened to this club
 
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I don't think we have hired bad managers (Gross Neal, and Francis aside).

This "terrible fit" is often used and really means nothing when you look at a PL novice like Nuno and the multi-trophies manager's of Jose and Conte that have prior to us and after us gone and made a mockery of being fired form all the wrong reasons.

Let Munn hire the next one, and Levy sit back and run the commercial side, after all isn't Munn here to run football operations?

Watched Inter this afternoon, terrific side, great system and tactics and three centre backs who stay in the home half. Top scorers in Serie A and a manager who is motivating his team from minute one.

We could easily afford him and not worry on the least if we lost the ball in midfield. Super tactician. May never happen but he's done a great job on the fraction of the budget Ange has wasted.

Team works very hard, Iraola like in commitment.
It was Munn who convinced Levy to get Ange. He bragged about how hard he worked to convince the board to sign him. So I think that Munn is as much of the problem now.
 
Ange isn't managing the worst injury crisis in history. Ange isn't the only one to have ever managed a team playing twice a week. Injuries counts are high for many teams this season, yes even Villa had their key players out in the FA Cup match on Sunday. We've lost or drawn to every team below us this season, even with a full squad - Southampton and Ipswich are conveniently forgotten - where have our high standards gone? Conte managed injuries (yes it was bad) and got the sack after dropping out of the top four while telling the truth in a press conference (it was hard it was to hear as a fan, but admittedly he was right).

How has Ange convinced so many that being in cup competitions and playing multiple times a week is a bad thing?

It's the whole damn point of being a successful club!!

Before Ange, we used to banter rivals for not playing in Europe and dropping out of cups. We bantered Arse for playing Europa on a Thursday instead of a Wednesday in the UCL like we were. What has happened to this club's ambitions?

Ange speaks and his disciples listen. Each new proclamation nullifies previous words uttered. Anyone calling him out on his blatant inconsistencies and hypocrisy is a part of the grand agenda against him. What the fuck has happened to this club

Really? Show me 1 single club that has ever had an injury crisis like this. Singe game week 8, Ange has only had 3 senior players consistently available - Son, Kulu, Porro.

Since November, that have not had more than 5 days rest between games - No time to prepare whatever makeshift squad is available.

Teams do well because of consistency; the same core players every game with some rotation. Spurs have fielded 12 combinations of defence this season.

Fuck, City lose Rodri and their season collapses. When Liverpool lost VVD for a season they dropped immediately out of the race. We've been without our CB's, Keeper, Playmaker and Strikers - and expect the same performances from kids who have never played premier league level football.

  1. Ben Davies (HG)
  2. Brandon Austin(HG)
  3. Fraser Forster(HG)
  4. Alfie Whiteman(HG)
  5. James Maddison(HG)
  6. Brennan Johnson(HG)
  7. Djed Spence(HG)
  8. Max Robson(HG)
  9. Dominic Solanke(HG)
  10. Son Heung-Min
  11. Cristian Romero
  12. Yves Bissouma
  13. Richarlison
  14. Pedro Porro
  15. Dejan Kulusevski
  16. Guglielmo Vicario
  17. Micky van de Ven
  18. Rodrigo Bentacur
  19. Sergio Reguilon
  20. Pape Matar Sarr
  21. Destiny Udogie
  22. Radu Dragusin
  23. Timo Werner
  24. Kevin Danso(HG)
 
Nuno was given no time, the team he has put together with a fraction of the budget is playing exciting, on the front foot football, and coached better than Ange could ever hope to do.

Ange is a 21/42 manager and sleeps like a baby each night, a fraud who when every player is back fit, won't nudge a win percentage worth a shit.

The players love him, only because he doesn't question a mistake they make.
Not sure why you're replying to me that Nuno is better than Ange. I'm on the record all over this forum as thinking Ange is probably our worst manager in Prem history.

That said, if you think the football Nuno has Forest playing is "on the front foot", you haven't a clue what you're watching, or you have a weird definition of "front foot". Nuno has set them up to be defensively solid. They set up in a deep block and hit teams quickly on the counter.

They run the least in the division, both with and without the ball. It's not a style of play you'll see the elite clubs in the world playing and Forest will likely finish around 7th-9th, which is what their underlying numbers suggest. Still a great season, but let's not pretend he's reinventing the wheel here.
 
Really? Show me 1 single club that has ever had an injury crisis like this. Singe game week 8, Ange has only had 3 senior players consistently available - Son, Kulu, Porro.

Since November, that have not had more than 5 days rest between games - No time to prepare whatever makeshift squad is available.

Teams do well because of consistency; the same core players every game with some rotation. Spurs have fielded 12 combinations of defence this season.

Fuck, City lose Rodri and their season collapses. When Liverpool lost VVD for a season they dropped immediately out of the race. We've been without our CB's, Keeper, Playmaker and Strikers - and expect the same performances from kids who have never played premier league level football.

  1. Ben Davies (HG)
  2. Brandon Austin(HG)
  3. Fraser Forster(HG)
  4. Alfie Whiteman(HG)
  5. James Maddison(HG)
  6. Brennan Johnson(HG)
  7. Djed Spence(HG)
  8. Max Robson(HG)
  9. Dominic Solanke(HG)
  10. Son Heung-Min
  11. Cristian Romero
  12. Yves Bissouma
  13. Richarlison
  14. Pedro Porro
  15. Dejan Kulusevski
  16. Guglielmo Vicario
  17. Micky van de Ven
  18. Rodrigo Bentacur
  19. Sergio Reguilon
  20. Pape Matar Sarr
  21. Destiny Udogie
  22. Radu Dragusin
  23. Timo Werner
  24. Kevin Danso(HG)
Yes it's bad. Ange himself admits that his approach causes these situations:


The medical team should bare some responsibility here too. Though weren't they sacked?.. It's so strange, sacking physios at the beginning of the injury crisis. I'd love to hear their story.
 
We didn’t pay up for him and that was his own PR moment

But I thought Levy paid managers well, so which one is it?

I think people need to realise that until we get back to being a consistent top 4 club again we won't be attracting the best managers or ones that are going to manage in European competition.

Guys of the stature of Marco Silva, Kieran Mckenna, Thomas Frank are the best we can hope for. I'd like Marco Rose too, but he's just re-signed for another season recently.
 

View: https://x.com/MeiaArmador__/status/1888727209101406542

"It’s abundantly clear that the game model puts an excessive physical load on the players. There are a lot more stats I can get into with regards to accelerations, distances between zonal substructures, and recovery-related stats. Unfortunately, they are only available to the coaching staff at the club, but the metrics I have mentioned still prove the point objectively and conclusively."

Even if he has the worst injury crisis, who cares? We were shit before the injury crisis, we'll be shit after it. He had his whole first choice XI available for the run in at the end of last season, it was one of the worst spells of games I've ever seen from a Spurs team.

And his batshit style of football directly leads to more injuries. So you have to bake it into the model.


Yeah this is elite to be fair. Same issues persist with Iraola hence why i'm not big on him as an alternative.
 
To be fair, at the end of last season we played Newcastle (A), Woolwich, Chelsea (A), Liverpool (A) and City. All teams that have mature squads and are better than us; and fixtures we'd probably expect to lose in the first season of a complete squad overhaul.

Finishing 5th, after losing Kane and bedding in a brand new squad and system was a huge achievement.
We finished 1 point off Villa with a higher goal difference. Ange failed getting us an almost guaranteed Champions League spot. The only thing that has been a massive achievement was going unbeaten for the first 10 games. No manager in the PL has ever won the first 10 games and not qualified.
 
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