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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Shadydan said:
You know there's a distinctive difference to how we have been setting up in the league compared to the last couple of matches in the EL, we aren't even playing 'Ange ball' in the EL really and certainly didn't do the other night.

Fans calling him to change his tactics to win matches, he's changed his tactics and we are winning matches and folk art still putting it on the players lol

I don't see our full backs go wondering into midfield as much as they did, I don't see our defensive line as high as it was, I don't see us playing out from the back as much, do you?

His overall coaching is poor and deserves the boot regardless of what happens for the rest of the season...but if we win it's down to everyone as it's a collective success not just the players...we can't have it both ways.
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So why didn't he change tacties in the league ?
too stubborn or just thick ?
Its all about him
he will leave this summer,If we win the EL he will claim the glory,if we don't He will blame levy & the supporters for not supporting him
 
rusty said:
So why didn't he change tacties in the league ?
too stubborn or just thick ?
Its all about him
he will leave this summer,If we win the EL he will claim the glory,if we don't He will blame levy & the supporters for not supporting him
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Maybe both, don't know, don't really care at this point...the league has been a complete and utter shit show and he deserves to go based on those results alone.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
I can acknowledge that he’s not completely useless in certain moments but I’m also holding the belief that his overall coaching is underwhelming, and the club deserves more than just tactical one-offs.

We have seen him adapt a few times to get us wins so it’s not completely alien but I am reluctant to praise someone and give credit to someone who, more often than not, actively harms the club with his approach.

How much longer do we give credit for fleeting moments of success when the broader picture is a managerial failure that doesn’t improve after multiple opportunities?

We can’t ignore the persistent issues that are costing us in the long run just because we happened to beat a team we should be beating comfortably imo.

So, yeah, I’m open to criticism of my own views, but at the same time, let’s not ignore the bigger picture is what I am saying.

Also, just to add to the above, I find it hard to believe Ange has had much impact on our performances in the EL when you consider how poor we have been in the PL; it seems more likely to me that our overall quality has seen us through the EL and has little to do with the manager (although I will give credit and say that against Bodo, he did set us up quite well, I will concede that.)
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And against Frankfurt home AND away?

IMO he has to go and WILL go at the end of the season, but he has managed the last 3 Europa league games well.
 
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rusty said:
So why didn't he change tacties in the league ?
too stubborn or just thick ?
Its all about him
he will leave this summer,If we win the EL he will claim the glory,if we don't He will blame levy & the supporters for not supporting him
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Too stubborn. Arrogant. An ego the size of a planet.

Yes it IS about HIM. It always has been and always will be. He is ruthlessly ambitious and will do whatever it takes to get ahead. But maybe that's what it takes to get an EPL gig from a footballing backwater like Melbourne.
 
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Last home game of the season is one of those that normally sells out early but there are a load of tickets left on the Exchange. 2 seats together, no problem. 3 seats together, absolutely. People have completely given up on this season.
 
Crockett said:
Last home game of the season is one of those that normally sells out early but there are a load of tickets left on the Exchange. 2 seats together, no problem. 3 seats together, absolutely. People have completely given up on this season.
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If we go through on Thursday, those tickets will be snapped up but yes.

No one is going to want to bid a fond farewell to abject failure, but the possibility of cheering trophy winners....
 
Crockett said:
Last home game of the season is one of those that normally sells out early but there are a load of tickets left on the Exchange. 2 seats together, no problem. 3 seats together, absolutely. People have completely given up on this season.
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I'm one of them. These players and manager have no shame, their body language tells me they don't give a fuck anymore (other than for the EL campaign). Why would I spend my hard earned money to watch them just going through the motions. I wish people would actually stop buying shit at the stadium too in a protest, at least as a one off, why not on a last game of the season?
 
PerthPaul said:
The most frustrating thing is that Liverpool lost a CL final, looked at where they fell short, invested, came back the next year and won it.

We lost a CL final, didn't invest, and spiralled into the oblivion we're in now.

It wasn't a vintage season by Poch by any means, and we were fortunate to reach the CL final if we're honest....but we were close to something great, you have to build on that. For whatever reason, Levy decided to go the other way...
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Yes, but a year or so out. The peak Tottenham team was really 18 months before the Champions League final. The damage was done in our failure to invest from a position of strength at the end of 18-19 and to then decline accordingly. That is 100% the fault of Levy and the boardroom. They left the club short of funding due to their inability to get the Stadium project funded correctly and not over run.
 
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