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Management Ange Postecoglou

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At least the old school trolls and contrarians were offensive, but also funny and unpredictable. Arcspace, Joe Clash, Audere and others.

If you know you know.

The current crop are just teeth grindingly boring and relentless.
 
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Bodo beat Porto, Lazio, Olympiacos, Twente, Besiktas to reach the Europa semis. All decent teams and Bodo deserve credit where its due.

To suggest those teams are Champo/League one quality is laughable.

The Premier league's over inflated wages aren't an induction of quality, they are reflective of TV rights money from the most watched league in the world.

If the Europa League is so easy, why have only 2 english teams won it in the past 20 years?
Because it's two bob mate 👍
 
At least the old school trolls and contrarians were offensive but funny and unpredictable. Arcspace, Joe Clash, Audere and others.

If you know you know.

The current crop are just teeth grindingly boring and relentless.
Think some aren't even trolls, they're just the strange outcome of this bizarre experiment Levy is performing.
Mixing a total amateur of a coach with a PL club and, unlike every other season ever, letting him do what he wants no matter what has produced these wierd fans.
It's a bit like teflon. They weren't trying to make teflon when they made it. And ultimately it was terrible for people's health, but it took years.
Edit...took years to figure out how shit it was for your health
 
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Think some aren't even trolls, they're just the strange outcome of this bizarre experiment Levy is performing.
Mixing a total amateur of a coach with a PL club and, unlike every other season ever, letting him do what he wants no matter what has produced these wierd fans.
It's a bit like teflon. They weren't trying to make teflon when they made it. And ultimately it was terrible for people's health, but it took years.
There's a bit of people thinking they are tremendously sophisticated if they back Levy, because of course he's a smart guy with the numbers, and they are in on it too. He gets how to run a club, his critics don't!

The only problem being his critics are fans who can see that the clubs year after year winning stuff are sustainable, are never going out of business, and that the only negative impact of increasing our wage bill would be on Levy's net worth (even then, perhaps not in truth), and that we won't suddenly be heading off the cliff and calling in the receivers if we invest in line with our peers.
 
I just want to say one thing on the injury excuses.

Even one of us with a competent coaching team and the first XI available would look half decent. The real management is when you don't have your first choice, when you have to fit in players that have weaknesses. If you need the perfect players for every position, well, what's the need for you then?

The entire point of a manager or coaching team is to organise, maybe less good defenders into a functional defence and then if they make dumb mistakes and have lapses in concentration, well, that can happen.

It's to make attackers who might not have the best qualities attack with the same attacking plan as always, or some new twist, just something organised

The biggest flaw of Postecoglou is that even with a first XI, we rarely look organised, we just have the quality to sort out issues, whether it be defenders with pace that can deal with 1 on 1s better, or attackers that can take on their man and create
 
There's some really interesting stuff by the FT journalist Dan McCrum on bluesky, on exactly what a few of us spent nearly a year arguing with the dudu dudu OziBeerMan OziBeerMan AberdeenYid AberdeenYid of this world about The nature of how Postecoglou sides play football causing injuries. It was so obvious that it was needlessly attritional and the root of so many of our problems yet they just howled their denial. Its been the most bizzare time in this clubs history, the personal loyalty to the man is unprecedented. It seems demotic of some broader social phenomenon...some thing is wrong with the world at the moment.
Not overly convinced I’ve been that vociferous about our injuries, the nature of them, or how they’ve happened. I’ve seen Ange interviews from his time at Celtic saying his training and playing style leads to more muscle injuries. So I’m aware of that. I’ve actually little idea why we’ve had so many injuries, but assume the style of play has played its part.

What I was previously outspoken about was I wanted us to stick with the manager a lot longer than most. Basically because I am sick of being stuck a year into a longer term project over and over again.

I see us having a fantastic record with our back five in place, so that’s great. However a plan that needs those five to remain fit doesn’t work at all. His idea when they aren’t seems to be to try to keep the ball as far away from this weakened area, but that’s not worked either.

Yes, I supported him because I wanted him to succeed. He hasn’t and he won’t, so he should go, but I’ll not have the anger towards him others have. He tried and failed. It happens.

And if my opinion on this, or anything else bugs you, I’m happy for you not to tag me into any “told you so” posts in future.
 
Not overly convinced I’ve been that vociferous about our injuries, the nature of them, or how they’ve happened. I’ve seen Ange interviews from his time at Celtic saying his training and playing style leads to more muscle injuries. So I’m aware of that. I’ve actually little idea why we’ve had so many injuries, but assume the style of play has played its part.

What I was previously outspoken about was I wanted us to stick with the manager a lot longer than most. Basically because I am sick of being stuck a year into a longer term project over and over again.

I see us having a fantastic record with our back five in place, so that’s great. However a plan that needs those five to remain fit doesn’t work at all. His idea when they aren’t seems to be to try to keep the ball as far away from this weakened area, but that’s not worked either.

Yes, I supported him because I wanted him to succeed. He hasn’t and he won’t, so he should go, but I’ll not have the anger towards him others have. He tried and failed. It happens.

And if my opinion on this, or anything else bugs you, I’m happy for you not to tag me into any “told you so” posts in future.
If I've unfortunately lumped you in with the tactical brains who wanted to argue the toss and against all logic would produce charts and metrics for other teams pressing, I apologise.

They were adamant and could not be shifted despite the obviousness of our issues. You were indeed deeply committed to Ange for what effectively appeared to be the axiom "He clung to nurse for fear of worse" It's a very silly argument to say we are stuck in a pattern of doing this wrong thing, so we will keep doing this deeply flawed thing in the hope it comes right in the end. Sorry mate that's utterly bonkers.

At a very basic level Levy has made some terrible footballing decisions why would an untested Postecoglou be any diffrent.? He is the nadir, he is the bottom of Levy's failures . I think Redknapp's appointment in extremis is his best, Pochettino being his second choice.
 
There's some really interesting stuff by the FT journalist Dan McCrum on bluesky, on exactly what a few of us spent nearly a year arguing with the dudu dudu OziBeerMan OziBeerMan AberdeenYid AberdeenYid of this world about The nature of how Postecoglou sides play football causing injuries. It was so obvious that it was needlessly attritional and the root of so many of our problems yet they just howled their denial. Its been the most bizzare time in this clubs history, the personal loyalty to the man is unprecedented. It seems demotic of some broader social phenomenon...some thing is wrong with the world at the moment.

From four years ago, but I guess the only thing Levy was interested in was how cheap he would be to get.

 
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