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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
His legacy will be making losing a habit.

The next manager will have his work cut out for him, undoing the loser mentality instilled by this loser manager.
Someone on here knows any of that voodoo shit? Let's resuscitate Cloughie. Imagine the peak version of the man walking into that dressing room and sorting out them players. And him exchanging with Ange.
 
Apart from relegation in the 70s, I think this time under ange has been the lowest point it has been as a Tottenham fan for me.
Amazingly, he could still win a trophy next week, and yes, we will take it, but there isn't much to celebrate in all honesty.
Really concerned over the future of this club and the direction it's heading in.
Really good post young Skywalker. No drama just an honest reflection on what has been a horrible season. What I worry about most is the lasting damage Ange has done to the club. An underwhelming summer and a poor start under a new manager next season and it will be another season of protests and humiliation. Even when Ange is finally sacked he will cast a dark shadow over this club for a few more seasons.
 
From the BBC, see below. It does cut away some of the pathetic excuses this Twit uses. And never forget the squad was not deep enough before these injuries.


“According to data from PremierInjuries.com, Tottenham have had the third worst injury crisis in the Premier League, with United the fifth.

In total, Spurs had lost 1,414 days to injuries and suffered 38 separate injuries this season – both the third highest tallies in the league.

United, meanwhile, had lost 1,229 days to injury – the fifth most – with 30 separate injuries, which was the seventh highest figure.

However, Brighton are sat in the top 10 of the Premier League, despite having the worst injury issues so far this season.

According to the data the Seagulls are top with 1,862 days lost to 44 separate injuries - as of 15 May”
 
From the BBC, see below. It does cut away some of the pathetic excuses this Twit uses. And never forget the squad was not deep enough before these injuries.


“According to data from PremierInjuries.com, Tottenham have had the third worst injury crisis in the Premier League, with United the fifth.

In total, Spurs had lost 1,414 days to injuries and suffered 38 separate injuries this season – both the third highest tallies in the league.

United, meanwhile, had lost 1,229 days to injury – the fifth most – with 30 separate injuries, which was the seventh highest figure.

However, Brighton are sat in the top 10 of the Premier League, despite having the worst injury issues so far this season.

According to the data the Seagulls are top with 1,862 days lost to 44 separate injuries - as of 15 May”

There's 0 context to the 'days lost' stat

Who got injured for Brighton? were they key injuries to first teamers? Does that include subs and players who normally wouldn't feature etc...
 
So Ange got us 5th last season (would have got CL this season) and to European final in his second full season in charge and some people aren’t happy!?












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From the BBC, see below. It does cut away some of the pathetic excuses this Twit uses. And never forget the squad was not deep enough before these injuries.


“According to data from PremierInjuries.com, Tottenham have had the third worst injury crisis in the Premier League, with United the fifth.

In total, Spurs had lost 1,414 days to injuries and suffered 38 separate injuries this season – both the third highest tallies in the league.

United, meanwhile, had lost 1,229 days to injury – the fifth most – with 30 separate injuries, which was the seventh highest figure.

However, Brighton are sat in the top 10 of the Premier League, despite having the worst injury issues so far this season.

According to the data the Seagulls are top with 1,862 days lost to 44 separate injuries - as of 15 May”
We did have our whole back 5 out for a big chunk of the season though. I don't think Brighton's injuries have been to such important players, Milner and March been out for the season not sure if they are even starters if fit. Plus Bentancur missed 8 games through suspension not included in that. Not making excuses for Ange but hard to deny we have had a bad time with injuries.
 
We did have our whole back 5 out for a big chunk of the season though. I don't think Brighton's injuries have been to such important players, Milner and March been out for the season not sure if they are even starters if fit. Plus Bentancur missed 8 games through suspension not included in that. Not making excuses for Ange but hard to deny we have had a bad time with injuries.
Yeah. Of course to an extent that can be argued. But going into the season with three CBs was still a risky thing. The Bentancer situation & long ban risk was known while the summer window was still open, and there were squad places available. As football is meant to be a squad game, the squad needs to be fit for purpose to deal with injuries however bad.

And Timo has been and is still missing - oh no wait that probably is not a bad thing 👍
 
I suspect it will take the next manager a good year to sort this squad out and repair them mentally. Whoever it is I’m not going to be expecting much. Perfect really, nothing Levy likes more than lowering people’s expectations.
Yep, another rebuild season on the cards. Perfect for Levy, lower expectations, calls for patience with new manager and squad bedding in. I mean it will be all of those things but its a bit boy who cried wolf. This would be around our 6th rebuild in 7 years.
 
There's 0 context to the 'days lost' stat

Who got injured for Brighton? were they key injuries to first teamers? Does that include subs and players who normally wouldn't feature etc...
Agree entirely - can’t understand why Ange is still here but (for whatever reason) - we seem to have been disproportionately hit with injuries to our first 11ish. It’s misleading to judge purely on days lost if 150 of them are to your 3rd choice keeper (for example) whilst the 1st choice plays on happily week-in, week-out.
 
Yep, another rebuild season on the cards. Perfect for Levy, lower expectations, calls for patience with new manager and squad bedding in. I mean it will be all of those things but its a bit boy who cried wolf. This would be around our 6th rebuild in 7 years.
If you keep appointing the wrong managers or not giving the right managers the tools they want then that’s what will happen.
 
This has all been secretly planned for ages. By August the Stadium will have been transformed and we will be in a position to take the Wheelchair Soccer Scene by storm, under Ange.

The squad's in training already. Why do you think they chopped the oak tree down?

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Yep. Wrong managers, poor scouting, poor people appointed on elsewhere like Hitchen, Munn etc . Yet the untouchable trio of Levy, Cullen, Colecott remain to appont the next hapless 18 month victims with zero consequences.

What I don’t get is why they haven’t learned about buy cheap buy twice. You hire cheap medical team, cheap scouting, cheap Scott Munn you end up spending far more on players as many won’t be good enough and have to be replaced. Trossard isn’t a world beater but he is decent and we pulled out, we got Danjuma, Solomon and Werner in that time who where not the level required and now have gone for Tel so spent 2-3 years trying to fix a hole.

Sometimes we make a really good call like Bergvall but it’s far to hit or miss to sustain anything. It’s not been till recent that our youth team has produced anyone with great potential (Moore, Williams-Barnett, Donley) and a lot of that apparently goes back to Paratici who did a lot of work when he was here to fix it.

For a club that wants to be cheap buying players getting a weak youth set up, weak scouting is the opposite of how you control costs. They don’t understand to save £100m over there you need to spend £10m more over here. If we had City or Chelsea level youth production we would have saved a fortune, even Woolwich now have quite a number of talents in the first team.

The whole operation reeks of amateur. Which is the opposite of our property operation which is first rate. The club feels like a property company that has a football club attached to it. They don’t understand football, the game of football I mean not the contracts and legal, they know that well and as such they spend far more than they need to because they don’t get buying second rate product costs more down the line.
 
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