it always comes down to are we a serious football club or not. as far as winning the league, we are not but if we keep a manager with this record for vibes and pr then we are even less serious than i thought.
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Cmon guys what are we doing here??
I've made it clear what I think of him and thought there was ZERO chance he could land a trophy but he did it and did it tweaking his tactics.
The man (when we all thought was deluded and spoke absolute bollocks) stated he would win us a trophy and he did. If someone talks shit but actually backs his talk then how can you even hate?
He's saying now he knows what mistakes we made in the window last summer and we need experience now. I'm not a hater by nature, if someone (even if I completley dislike the person) says something and actually delivers then I mean, I tend to Start believing that ok there's substance behind this.
I've made it clear what I think of him and thought there was ZERO chance he could land a trophy but he did it and did it tweaking his tactics.
The man (when we all thought was deluded and spoke absolute bollocks) stated he would win us a trophy and he did. If someone talks shit but actually backs his talk then how can you even hate?
He's saying now he knows what mistakes we made in the window last summer and we need experience now. I'm not a hater by nature, if someone (even if I completley dislike the person) says something and actually delivers then I mean, I tend to Start believing that ok there's substance behind this.
That's because Woolwich and especially Chelsea, have come to expect more and won't accept less.
Us on the other hand, have come to be grateful for days like Wednesday, we are so excited by the trophy that, we are willing to put up with this car salesman.
Our expectations have been set so low that we put up with a league season like we just have, finished only a few points off of being relegated that should never be tbe case.
how can you look at the football and think there's anything of substance happening on the pitch? this shift away from ange ball has been a disgrace where we just sit ten men in front of goal and don't attack at all. ange finally saw his ideas were getting ripped to shreds weekly and his last hope was to eek out this cup, so his alternative is to sit 10 deep and pray. c'mon man there's nothing there! everyone who knows anything can see it . our disastrous football has only gotten worse as the season has ended. if levy keeps him he's just bowing to the vibes and we'll pay the price again.
Ange was happy after the final to talk about how knockout football demands a more pragmatic style of play but I seem to remember that after we got destroyed by Liverpool in the second leg of the semi he said it was an example of why we shouldn’t abandon his primary way of playing. That trying to be cautious is the reason we got battered.
I think he is just a bit of a bluffer who will simply say anything. Remember when we lost 3-2 to Brighton when leading at half time, he said he’d rather lose than be “falsely rewarded” for being pragmatic. He said he’d never abandon his famous principles but he did, he threw them all in the bin so he could win the EL and I’m glad he did. But from a coaching POV his credibility has been shredded. He used to rage against those who said he needed to change, that his football didn’t work, but in the end they were proved right and he had to change it completely to rescue the season.
If we are going to move away from hardcore Angeball, surely it’s better to bring a new manager with a different idea of football rather than ask Ange to do something he’s never done before? We made that mistake already with Nuno, asking him to play attacking football which he wasn’t capable of doing. And if we are planning to go back to full-on Angeball next season then he will be sacked by October because we’ll be in the relegation zone.
I think he is just a bit of a bluffer who will simply say anything. Remember when we lost 3-2 to Brighton when leading at half time, he said he’d rather lose than be “falsely rewarded” for being pragmatic. He said he’d never abandon his famous principles but he did, he threw them all in the bin so he could win the EL and I’m glad he did. But from a coaching POV his credibility has been shredded. He used to rage against those who said he needed to change, that his football didn’t work, but in the end they were proved right and he had to change it completely to rescue the season.
If we are going to move away from hardcore Angeball, surely it’s better to bring a new manager with a different idea of football rather than ask Ange to do something he’s never done before? We made that mistake already with Nuno, asking him to play attacking football which he wasn’t capable of doing. And if we are planning to go back to full-on Angeball next season then he will be sacked by October because we’ll be in the relegation zone.
Did he say that we would finish 17th?
I was fully Ange in after Wednesday and I’m now Ange out again.
It’s about risk assessment and the risk of our form under him continuing is just too great a risk.
If Ange was a manager at another club and we were looking to bring him in after the season he just had, would we?
I am also seeking psychiatric help
You’re on the right Forum mate!
Who cares? Don’t finish 17th on 38 points and maybe they could keep their best mate.
And I don't need him to repent on his knees to the press about this stuff, but if I'm Daniel Levy I want answers to these questions.
What kind of football are we going to play going forward? And I think most critically, how is maintaining player fitness a part of that thought process?
The evidence that Angeball Uber Alles is something that players cannot sustain physically at this level is a compelling case for moving on.
exactly this! hes a rookie! watch the last 20 mins against united and although we were sitting in, it was so disjointed and ugly, we had 3 men going to the same ball at times. it was playground stuff.
archie gray was interviewed by the little melt for spurs tv or whatever at the parade, he asked him what the manager said to him as he was everywhere....he said he told him nothing just where he was playing, he took it on himself to make sure bruno had no time on the ball!! i mean just wow! hes sending a teenager on at a time like that in a final with no instructions! even a sunday league manager would give more.
I don't quite see it like that tbh mate.
I have no issues with us sitting deep and to be honest, whilst I agree we did that, it's not like the opposition were creating chances themselves. United created maybe 1 good chance, Frankfurt zero, Bodo Zero.....I means it's not like we got peppered and got lucky. In all those games there was a level of control and never did we look panicky or desperate.
The point I'm making is that I didn't even think he had it in his locker to change it so drastically. His stubbornness and inability to change it in the league led me to believe he was a lost cause. I still think he's an egotistical passive aggressive man but he deserves massive praise in what he has done.
He is absolutely saying the right things about making mistakes in the window and the need for experience. As i said before, there was a warning sign in his post match interview after winning the Europa where he was sort of making excuses for changing his style with knock out football being different to the league so I am wary. I'd have preferred him to just accept he changed it because it wasn't working previously but again...thats probably down to his ego that he can't admit that.
You post the least amount of garbage on here my guy!What an incredibly stupid asshole I am!
I stand by this club and actually seriously believe that the many injuries could have played a role in this club's decline to such an extent that it's unbelievable.
They haven't even reached the otherwise necessary milestone to avoid relegation! Not even that!
And then I, the simpleton, believe that winning the Europa League means anything!
Ridiculous!
This club, for which a complete idiot like me wastes his free time, only "wins" this cup because they got to play against teams even worse than Tottenham!
Most recently, against the world-unknown club Bodo, right?
Not to mention those characters from Germany, that village club from Hesse. A club in whose state apple wine is considered a delicacy – can't be a real football club!
They're probably actually synchronized swimmers!
Since I'm also from this state in Germany, I hope you understand my cluelessness as I navigated the forum!
My idiotic belief that a) there were too many injured, absolutely crucial players last season and b) winning the Europa League is something very special for me, without considering that if Tottenham or even Frankfurt win the trophy, it can't be a serious trophy.
I was always afraid of the football-free period because I love the sport so much.
Now I have until August 16, 2025, to reflect on my inappropriate behavior before I post another pile of garbage on this forum.
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I couldn't give a damn whether we won the trophy against United or Cloud Cuckoo Land!
I couldn't care less!
On May 21, 2025, Tottenham Hotspur FC beat 35 – that's thirty-five! – clubs to win the Europa League, thus qualifying for the 2025/26 Champions League!
And next season, I'm predicting that this fabulous club will finish in the top 10 of the PL!
I'm already looking forward to the coming season and am offering to try to get another ticket for a possible match against Eintracht Frankfurt, so that I can humiliate a user in this forum by having to watch a match between two insignificant clubs live.
No offense!
COME ON YOU SPURS!
well he kind of did, he was clearly injured as he didnt even make the bench for the brighton game...he gave him long enough to nearly fuck it up for us too.
In theory Levy doesn't need to worry about what fans might think of this or that decision of his. This is not a democracy, the guy is just running his private business here. As long as he has enough consumers willing to purchase his products (season tickets, merchandise etc) he won't lose any sleep over any kind of potential discontent. That's the unfortunate reality.
That being said, IF he's already undecided on this issue or even leaning towards keeping Ange, fan support for Ange on the ground might tip the scales here. And Levy being undecided/cordial towards Ange is hardly a far-fetched assumption.
I've always believed that Ange, the -superficially- charming person that he is, has Levy under his spell. He doesn't treat him the same way that he treated his previous managers. The way he stuck with him through thick and thin over the course of this season only reaffirmed this for me. And he probably considers his -irrational- belief in Ange fully vindicated now that we have a trophy to show for it.
My hunch is that he thinks that he has just started reaping the rewards of this Ange experiment. Wouldn't be surprised to see him double down on it this summer honestly.
That being said, IF he's already undecided on this issue or even leaning towards keeping Ange, fan support for Ange on the ground might tip the scales here. And Levy being undecided/cordial towards Ange is hardly a far-fetched assumption.
I've always believed that Ange, the -superficially- charming person that he is, has Levy under his spell. He doesn't treat him the same way that he treated his previous managers. The way he stuck with him through thick and thin over the course of this season only reaffirmed this for me. And he probably considers his -irrational- belief in Ange fully vindicated now that we have a trophy to show for it.
My hunch is that he thinks that he has just started reaping the rewards of this Ange experiment. Wouldn't be surprised to see him double down on it this summer honestly.
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Him being linked to Saudi is strange too. Maybe it’s his agent trying to get him a bumper new contract.
However if he wants to try another country and Paratici can persuade him then we’ve got to go for it. He’s a serious manager.
What an incredibly stupid asshole I am!
I stand by this club and actually seriously believe that the many injuries could have played a role in this club's decline to such an extent that it's unbelievable.
They haven't even reached the otherwise necessary milestone to avoid relegation! Not even that!
And then I, the simpleton, believe that winning the Europa League means anything!
Ridiculous!
This club, for which a complete idiot like me wastes his free time, only "wins" this cup because they got to play against teams even worse than Tottenham!
Most recently, against the world-unknown club Bodo, right?
Not to mention those characters from Germany, that village club from Hesse. A club in whose state apple wine is considered a delicacy – can't be a real football club!
They're probably actually synchronized swimmers!
Since I'm also from this state in Germany, I hope you understand my cluelessness as I navigated the forum!
My idiotic belief that a) there were too many injured, absolutely crucial players last season and b) winning the Europa League is something very special for me, without considering that if Tottenham or even Frankfurt win the trophy, it can't be a serious trophy.
I was always afraid of the football-free period because I love the sport so much.
Now I have until August 16, 2025, to reflect on my inappropriate behavior before I post another pile of garbage on this forum.
___________________________________________________________________
I couldn't give a damn whether we won the trophy against United or Cloud Cuckoo Land!
I couldn't care less!
On May 21, 2025, Tottenham Hotspur FC beat 35 – that's thirty-five! – clubs to win the Europa League, thus qualifying for the 2025/26 Champions League!
And next season, I'm predicting that this fabulous club will finish in the top 10 of the PL!
I'm already looking forward to the coming season and am offering to try to get another ticket for a possible match against Eintracht Frankfurt, so that I can humiliate a user in this forum by having to watch a match between two insignificant clubs live.
No offense!
COME ON YOU SPURS!
A bit short of a sandwich.
Next year will be even harder and he’s demonstrated zero ability to handle even just two competitions.
I appreciate what he helped to achieve, but it’s just not good enough and next year has all the likelihood of being worse without a change.