This makes sense in what I think Levy wants, and that is he fancies Poch returning after the WC so will be very hesitant to bring someone in now to be potentially paying them off at the end of the season if they are shite!
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Management Ange Postecoglou
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That the decision has been made to roll with Ange next season.
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I hope he is full of shit. But when such a decision is communicated. I will fall back and pray.
To be honest it’s quite obvious. Spurs fans waiting for the club to make a statement when in reality the only statement they could make is that he’s sacked. Other than that he’s under contract and is the manager.
You don't keep a manager on for all this time waiting on the promise of winning the Europa only for then to sack him after
You don't keep a manager on for all this time waiting on the promise of winning the Europa only for then to sack him after
I've heard several times that no decision has been made yet - I suspect it largely hinges on who they can get to replace him.
I'm torn because I know if we sack him then players like Romero and Porro could look to leave and there is part of me that thinks we can really build on this current group of players. Player for player, this is the best back 4 we've ever had and probably will ever have. Its a generational back 4. I'd love us to keep them and build on it.
But I'm not convinced Ange is the man to bring us forward. Its almost a shame that the players love him so much because it makes sacking him a massive gamble where it could ruin morale and we probably will lose Romero and maybe Porro too.
As things stand, it sounds like no players will want to leave if Ange stays. Maybe the sensible thing to do is keep him and see how this united group of players do under him next season. I'm torn really. Don't mind which way it goes. Just hope we make the decision next week and can start building for next season.
But I'm not convinced Ange is the man to bring us forward. Its almost a shame that the players love him so much because it makes sacking him a massive gamble where it could ruin morale and we probably will lose Romero and maybe Porro too.
As things stand, it sounds like no players will want to leave if Ange stays. Maybe the sensible thing to do is keep him and see how this united group of players do under him next season. I'm torn really. Don't mind which way it goes. Just hope we make the decision next week and can start building for next season.
I don’t know what people are expecting. A statement saying the manager is not sacked isn’t happening. Some comments backing him maybe forthcoming but we all know they don’t count for much once he loses more games.
I’ve always said I think he starts next season.
I'm not. How is he an upgrade? What has he achieved in football management? If it means getting more out of average players, well that's also a Sam Allardyce achievement!!!
Unless Levy finds someone who is a clear-as-day upgrade, he will be on a hiding to nothing when he loses 3 games in a row (Levy and the new manager).
If you said to me at the start of the season, you can win the Europa (in my mind, UEFA) cup and get into the CL, but you have to finish 17th as a price to pay, I'd take that all day. Finishing 4th, 3rd and 2nd as we have in the past decade, meant f'all to me. Winning something was badly needed. Can't sack a manager for winning a trophy under challenging circumstances (back 5 injured all at once, playing kids all season, injuries to key players).
You really think this back 4 is better than prime Rose Toby Vert Walker? That's quite the statement.
Personally don't think they're in that bracket yet to be honest.
This is the scenario I see happening too. I really don't think Levy will sack him after lifting a pot and someone like Frank or Xavi or whoever coming in would be a gamble anyway. They would be on a hiding to nothing with the previous man having got the trophy monkey off our back.
Ange stays, see how it goes - if its not a disaster in the league and CL group stage by winter break he will see out the year with Poch back in 26 is my bet and tbh I wouldn't be against it if the touted managers were the alternative.
IMO any whispers or statements to suggest he is staying - from players or otherwise - is the 'default' I'd expect to hear and nothing more.
The only way we'll know he's actually staying is if he's on the pre-season tour, or if we start signing players for him. At the minimum, we won't hear anything at all about any changes until end of June (IMO) when the new footballing administration comes in (Vinai and, I assume, Paratici)
Certainly won't even know if Ange himself is wanting to stay on until he's back off his holiday. Despite the fact he's about to turn 60, he has school age kids. I imagine, because of that, he will want to - or be under pressure to - consider carefully about whether he wants to put his kids in a new school year only to be at risk of moving them anyway in October/November time (such is the pressure to start the season well).
I wouldn't put it past him to leave with the Europa on his mantle, reputation (contentiously) enhanced, rather than gamble and leave Ramos style
The only way we'll know he's actually staying is if he's on the pre-season tour, or if we start signing players for him. At the minimum, we won't hear anything at all about any changes until end of June (IMO) when the new footballing administration comes in (Vinai and, I assume, Paratici)
Certainly won't even know if Ange himself is wanting to stay on until he's back off his holiday. Despite the fact he's about to turn 60, he has school age kids. I imagine, because of that, he will want to - or be under pressure to - consider carefully about whether he wants to put his kids in a new school year only to be at risk of moving them anyway in October/November time (such is the pressure to start the season well).
I wouldn't put it past him to leave with the Europa on his mantle, reputation (contentiously) enhanced, rather than gamble and leave Ramos style
What's the point of having all these supposed football directors Vini, Paratici, Munn, Lange if they can't make the correct decision.
Winning the europa league is great for the club and a fantastic achievement but cup football isn't a measure of sustainability, unless the club is extremely consistent in winning them year after year. Which we in recent times are not.
22 league defeats....22. it is clear as day there is something fundamentally wrong with Ange Postecoglou and his coaching staff.
We are never Pro active always hopeful and always reactive, we should be making clear and obvious steps to improve but it always feels undercooked.
We have got a head start now regarding champions league and we really need to put some distance between us and the rest of the chasing pack.
Winning the europa league is great for the club and a fantastic achievement but cup football isn't a measure of sustainability, unless the club is extremely consistent in winning them year after year. Which we in recent times are not.
22 league defeats....22. it is clear as day there is something fundamentally wrong with Ange Postecoglou and his coaching staff.
We are never Pro active always hopeful and always reactive, we should be making clear and obvious steps to improve but it always feels undercooked.
We have got a head start now regarding champions league and we really need to put some distance between us and the rest of the chasing pack.
If Levy wants to sack him - he can't until Ange gets back from his holiday.
I suspect one factor will be their personal relationship.
It normally ends it breaking down - and the manager mouthing off about Levy and the club.
Ange has sort of done it - but nowhere near to the extent others did. We forget how crazy Poch went in the press towards the end. We don't know what is happening behind the scenes.
I suspect one factor will be their personal relationship.
It normally ends it breaking down - and the manager mouthing off about Levy and the club.
Ange has sort of done it - but nowhere near to the extent others did. We forget how crazy Poch went in the press towards the end. We don't know what is happening behind the scenes.
Yeah thats the only comparison and its close. Right now I can see why you'd have the Poch back 4 ahead as you can see their full careers.
Personally I think Porro Romero VDV and Udogie will all go onto have much better careers than the 4 you mentioned. Romero has already surpassed them. VDV is destined to become one of the best and will either do it with us or at a bigger club.
Porro might not get to Walker levels of success so he'd the debatable one. Prime Rose is better than current Udogie but I'd back Udogie to end up with a much better career.
Big statement but I could see us reflecting on this back 4 in 5 years time and kicking ourselves for not building on it. Could see all 4 of them playing for the best teams in Europe if they can't make it work here.