I did write 2nd rate. And then I gave you the dictionary definition of what that means.
I can't really see how this is even a debate.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I can't really see how this is even a debate.
He said several times that his aim is to build a team and a system where everybody knows exactly what to do in any given circumstances. Thus changing the system for any specific game unless it is live or die is a step back.
Until he realises that, at this level, every game is live or die, he is not going to succeed in his aims.
People who don't learn deserve to be spoken to like idiots.
As for the last comment - are you harry's boyfriend? Or his mummy,
I know what second-rate means, Matt.
I’m shocked at how some of our fans have such short term memories. Can’t believe how many people have let their emotions take over after the final and just completely forgotten about EVERYTHING .We’ve been terrible for 18 months. This guy nearly got us relegated. The tactics were shambolic. We got destroyed literally in every fucking league game since that Chelsea game. He's tactically awful, can't cope with two games a week and his training methods and playing style cause a lot of injuries.
Remember Juande Ramos, Levy stuck with him, had to sack him by October because of league results. Lots of clubs have moved managers on after winning. Gambling with winning that final and I’m forever grateful he did but he must to go.
Remember Juande Ramos, Levy stuck with him, had to sack him by October because of league results. Lots of clubs have moved managers on after winning. Gambling with winning that final and I’m forever grateful he did but he must to go.
Isn't there? From what I've seen, there's been the same articles. Some saying he'll be sacked. Pundits saying he should or shouldn't be. Articles claiming he'll be given time. All of which exist for Ange.
I don't know what you consider to be valid, but I expect that you'll dismiss all of this stuff even though it is very much the same with ange. Only reason why we see more for Ange is:
a) the controversy of winning a trophy and being at risk of the sack
b) because he's done the worst thing and fallen out with journs this season, so they're all gunning for him
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Xavi? Max Allegri? Gareth Southgate? Surely not Gareth Southgate...
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Amorim has even spoken about being sacked himself since the start of the year, and United have spent more time sacking the stewards
Just inventing your own evidence, but fine. What about the other 2? There's still a board of directors and Cullen/Collecot weren't the only members
A good change I think.
How many of the sides that eliminated us from the Europa League had dropped down from the Champions League?
Zagreb in 2021? No others? It's not like Champions League sides were blocking our path to winning it.
FUCK SAKE - STOP IGNORING PEOPLE!
Poch sacrificed the Ropey League for top 4 finishes.
FUCKING. LISTEN.
He, nor anyone else in the history of ENIC, the Premier League, the growth of the Champions League, EVER threw away league game after league game after league game to ease past shit like fucking Bodo fucking Glimpt.
STOP BEING A FUCKING DIV AND FUCKING UNDERSTAND.
NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN GIVEN FREE REIGN TO KEEP LOOSING EVERY WEEK.
NOBODY HAS EVER NOT HAD TO WORRY ABOUT BEING SACKED ON A MONDAY AFTER YET ANOTHER LEAGUE LOSS.
Any one of Jol, Redknapp, AVB, Poch, Mourinho or Conte would have won a ropey league.
NOT ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE GOT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOR IT AS IT DIDN'T AWARD THAT.
And for that reason, they all HAD to focus on league form.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL AND STOP TALKING SHIT.
If admin aren't going to ban this twat despite EVERYONE foul voting him, I think I'll have to ban my fucking self.
He’s either a certified troll or so stupid his brain would explode if put in an oast house and asked to sit in the corner.
It's funny that this journey towards everybody knowing what to do in any given circumstance, involves such a prolonged period of nobody looking like they have a sodding clue what to do in any circumstance at all...
Finally someone to put it clear.FUCK SAKE - STOP IGNORING PEOPLE!
Poch sacrificed the Ropey League for top 4 finishes.
FUCKING. LISTEN.
He, nor anyone else in the history of ENIC, the Premier League, the growth of the Champions League, EVER threw away league game after league game after league game to ease past shit like fucking Bodo fucking Glimpt.
STOP BEING A FUCKING DIV AND FUCKING UNDERSTAND.
NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN GIVEN FREE REIGN TO KEEP LOOSING EVERY WEEK.
NOBODY HAS EVER NOT HAD TO WORRY ABOUT BEING SACKED ON A MONDAY AFTER YET ANOTHER LEAGUE LOSS.
Any one of Jol, Redknapp, AVB, Poch, Mourinho or Conte would have won a ropey league.
NOT ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE GOT CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOR IT AS IT DIDN'T AWARD THAT.
And for that reason, they all HAD to focus on league form.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL AND STOP TALKING SHIT.
If admin aren't going to ban this twat despite EVERYONE foul voting him, I think I'll have to ban my fucking self.
You seem to be an expert on that.
I'm with you but other managers tried and failed in the Europa.
Doesn't excuse the PL sh!t of last season, but it isn't right to say others ditched the Europa or other cups. We have been either a tad unlucky or simply failed.
Last season we weren't great in the Europa one little but, but won it. No masterclass and no master plan, but we got over the line. It certainly wasn't a PSG are the best team in their competition and it would have been a surprise if they didn't win.
We were one of 4 or 5 teams that were likely but there was no clear water between us and 3 or 4 other teams.
How Postecoglou is still here is way beyond me.
As an aside I think if another PL team wins the Europa next year, UEFA will look to change the rules of entry into the CL. England can't and should not have 6 teams in it.
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Which is really out of order as a comment, considering I keep positing things based on references and demonstrable stuff. You seem to offer up opinion as evidence, which is not really adding anything.
In that case I'm saying companies house shows the directors and the counter is just "no"
There are lies, damn lies, statistics and your posts.
Pipe - Stick - Smoke
You're like my wife - you keep pretending your opinions are the facts.
I don't particularly see what you're trying to add here. It's just rage baiting.
Seems pretty redundant, to me, to engage with a platform if you can't accept differing opinions without resorting to insults.
I spent the majority of the last week feeling quite refreshed that the forum had changed from the sammyspurs/arcspace type stuff like that but clearly it isn't.
Stop presenting your opinions as 'the only facts' and you'll get on a great deal better.
No charge - just friendly advice.