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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
So true my Fenian friend.

Some of the people arguing with you on this matter keep reminding us how lucky we are to not have 'done a Leeds'.

They embrace the mediocrity and justify the miserly investment in player salaries and incoming transfers.

They also call Spurs fans gooners if they object.

Looks like the SPG are trying to get you banned / slung out.

The truth hurts.

You're an utter snake, never been one of us.
 
So true my Fenian friend.

Some of the people arguing with you on this matter keep reminding us how lucky we are to not have 'done a Leeds'.

They embrace the mediocrity and justify the miserly investment in player salaries and incoming transfers.

They also call Spurs fans gooners if they object.

Looks like the SPG are trying to get you banned / slung out.

The truth hurts.

He's chatting rubbish, easier to manage Celtic than Spurs? We're a graveyard for coaches ... somehow I don't think Jose or Conte would struggle in SPL-land. This league is the pinnacle of club football and an absolute knife fight where coaches like Emery or Lopetegui end up coaching mid-table sides.

And we're not a mid-table club, arguably on that overall trajectory but not there yet. Not going to take mid table jibes from a fan of a club from a league of 12 teams including Kilmarnock. Two thirds of the EPL are relegation fodder and would also win his shite excuse for a league.
 
So true my Fenian friend.

Some of the people arguing with you on this matter keep reminding us how lucky we are to not have 'done a Leeds'.

They embrace the mediocrity and justify the miserly investment in player salaries and incoming transfers.

They also call Spurs fans gooners if they object.

Looks like the SPG are trying to get you banned / slung out.

The truth hurts.
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Ange is thoroughly authentic. Perhaps it’s because we have so many non English speaking managers (not native speakers) but every word he says is compelling or interesting. Confident he’s a good one but he’s been stitched up and I don’t think he’ll last the season. Next Man U manager IMO
 
There are aspects where it is. The expectation for instance which had already been mentioned.

But more so the fact that it's difficult to keep improving, when - domestically at least- you keep winning.

The gulf in class between CL teams and the likes of Motherwell, Kilmarnock etc is huge.

Ange won't have that at Spurs,almost every game will be of a CL or Europa League standard.

Then there's the budget. Ange can now spend more on one player than he spent in two years at Celtic. If he gets that right I fully expect Spurs to be in the title race for the vast majority of the season.

I won't tip Spurs to win the EPL in this coming season, but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.
 
There are aspects where it is. The expectation for instance which had already been mentioned.

But more so the fact that it's difficult to keep improving, when - domestically at least- you keep winning.

The gulf in class between CL teams and the likes of Motherwell, Kilmarnock etc is huge.

Ange won't have that at Spurs,almost every game will be of a CL or Europa League standard.

Then there's the budget. Ange can now spend more on one player than he spent in two years at Celtic. If he gets that right I fully expect Spurs to be in the title race for the vast majority of the season.

I won't tip Spurs to win the EPL in this coming season, but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

Yeah but even if you flop in the CL, providing you still win domestically your job is more than safe, and there's only 1 team who challenge you anyway, compared to the Spurs job where you will need to improve on your metrics year in year out - managers have been sacked for not getting top 4 at this club and in a league which is as competitive as the PL that's not always a given.

The same point about spend, yes Ange will get to spend more money then he ever has but what difference does it make when the competition are spending more in an already bloated market where the margins between success and failure are much finer than the SPL? That's hardly an advantage.
 
Managing Celtic is a lot harder than managing Spurs mate. Daft comments that talk down Ange's past achievements usually has the speaker feeling embarrassed. Spurs are a mid-table EPL team where you're used to not winning things. At Celtic you have to win every game. Every game. No exceptions. The EPL is a one-team league (Man City) with a close also-ran that usually bottles it (Woolwich). There's always a bridesmaid each season but Man City win it. You do get the other teams offering a slight bit of competition but that usually dies by Christmas. Two thirds of the EPL are relegation fodder.
But you‘ve only one team to worry about as well? Wo any of the other teams in the Scottish league putting in even the slightest challenge you lot and your fellow brethren start waving your cheque book around buy said teams best player weaken them and off you go again! not content with that you fail miserably in Europe blame the Scottish league because there’s no competition, no competition because of your own doing…..daft cunts
 
But you‘ve only one team to worry about as well? Wo any of the other teams in the Scottish league putting in even the slightest challenge you lot and your fellow brethren start waving your cheque book around buy said teams best player weaken them and off you go again! not content with that you fail miserably in Europe blame the Scottish league because there’s no competition, no competition because of your own doing…..daft cunts
That reply seems unecessarily abusive. Whilst I have had a fondness for Spurs for many years, I appreciate that I am not a Spurs fan.

I am just trying to give an objective opinion as to how I think Ange will do at Spurs.

Can you please list these best players that Ange signed from other SPFL teams, when he was waving his cheque book about.
I don't recall any.
 
Yeah but even if you flop in the CL, providing you still win domestically your job is more than safe, and there's only 1 team who challenge you anyway, compared to the Spurs job where you will need to improve on your metrics year in year out - managers have been sacked for not getting top 4 at this club and in a league which is as competitive as the PL that's not always a given.

The same point about spend, yes Ange will get to spend more money then he ever has but what difference does it make when the competition are spending more in an already bloated market where the margins between success and failure are much finer than the SPL? That's hardly an advantage.
I understand that other clubs will have more financial clout than Spurs. Newcastle for instance might emerge as a force this season due to their spending power.

So whilst Ange might not be able to go for the MOST expensive players, he'll still be able to get some very good ones.
 
That reply seems unecessarily abusive. Whilst I have had a fondness for Spurs for many years, I appreciate that I am not a Spurs fan.

I am just trying to give an objective opinion as to how I think Ange will do at Spurs.

Can you please list these best players that Ange signed from other SPFL teams, when he was waving his cheque book about.
I don't recall any.
I’m not talking about Postecoglou signing any players from the Scottish league in his tenure he chose the Asian market which you could argue is of a better quality than the SPL or certainly on a par…….




unecessarily abusive oh me, I do apologise
 
There are aspects where it is. The expectation for instance which had already been mentioned.

But more so the fact that it's difficult to keep improving, when - domestically at least- you keep winning.

The gulf in class between CL teams and the likes of Motherwell, Kilmarnock etc is huge.

Ange won't have that at Spurs,almost every game will be of a CL or Europa League standard.

Then there's the budget. Ange can now spend more on one player than he spent in two years at Celtic. If he gets that right I fully expect Spurs to be in the title race for the vast majority of the season.

I won't tip Spurs to win the EPL in this coming season, but I wouldn't be shocked if they did.

The expectations at any decent PL side are also high. We've seen genuinely elite coaches sacked at Spurs - the likes of Mourinho ,Conte and Pochettino. The former two were well versed in being 'expected' to win but struggled at a club where you're expected to do very well but are up against other elite coaches with deeper pockets. You're also expected to entertain.

Nobody expects Celtic managers to do well in Europe, its a bonus. Ange did nothing in Europe and y'all hail him like he's some sort of God who can waltz in to the Premier League and compete for the title. And yeah, Ange can spend more here ... but he's up against teams who win nothing but can still spend 120m on a CDM, so that more than balances out.

Relative to the level he was coaching at, Ange had a far better squad at Celtic. At Spurs there are a handful of better squads and a few that are debatable. And a handful behind that who have momentum & coaches and in a one off season can do well. Managing here is more competitive and more difficult in pretty much every conceivable way, hence why Rodgers won everything there was to win every there but has been sacked multiple times here.

And *shrug* stick a fiver on it if you think there's a decent chance. It won't happen. If Pep and Klopp both couldn't win it in their first season, what makes you think Ange will at Spurs? This stuff is where the hyperbole about him comes in.
 
Spurs are 40-1 for the title with one third of the odds for 2nd. Woolwich are second favourites.
I expect Spurs to finish above Woolwich.
However Newcastle are the fly in the ointment.

You have a manager who can build a TEAM, of players who will enjoy their football. That can count for a lot.
Am I getting carried away because of what he did at Celtic? Probably.

But I still think most people will be surprised at how good Spurs will be in the coming season, and the one after that
 
Ah so you're talking about history. In the past Celtic and Rangers did sign a lot of players from their competitors.

What the fuck has that got to do with Ange ?
Was in response to celticbhoy and his “Celtic are harder to manage than Tottenham” statement whether it’s postecoglou, Strachan or Lennon Celtic is a easier gig , yes I get where he’s coming from re Celtic are expected to win every game and Tottenham‘s expectations are lower maybe so but Celtics financial clout knocks the rest of Scotland out the water……can you seriously see no matter who is charge of rangers or Celtic any other team in Scotland winning the league?
 
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Was in response to celticbhoy and his “Celtic are harder to manage than Tottenham” statement whether it’s postecoglou, Strachan or Lennon Celtic is a easier gig than Celtic , yes I get where he’s coming from re Celtic are expected to win every game and Tottenham‘s expectations are lower maybe so but Celtics financial clout knocks the rest of Scotland out the water……can you seriously see no matter who is charge of rangers or Celtic any other team in Scogland winning the league?
No I can not see any other team winning. However I do think Aberdeen Hearts and Hibs will make a better fist of it in the coming season. Also St Mirren will cause a few upsets.

But the TV money in Scotland is peanuts compared to other leagues, so it come down to ticket sales and that means Celtic and Rangers will always be way ahead in the finances
 
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