Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Shut up Levybot!!



It’s well known Daniel is a man who needs to know about everything.

As poch once said.” I’m just the coach”. Ange is not on the phone todays trying to shift Tanguy and negotiate wages for Mbappe!!

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Who said he was? Not me, but it's unrealistic to suggest that Ange has no input. In fact, his influence is at its strongest now - and he can be judged on the next 3 days - which was my original, not very controversial, point.



I reckon you need a good meal.

 

[The Dealer]

There's a big difference to losing on a penalty shoot out where the 90mins has finished 1-1 compared to getting battered 3-0 with a 'B team/squad' players.

He's 4 games into a four year contract. I'm shocked that fans can't see why he selected a more rotated side. It's well documented we have a tonne load of players, how do you think he's gonna manage that squad and keep the harmony if he just selects his first 11 each match. In an ideal world that would be the case but there was never a chance of that happening.

In a way the problem is this over bloated squad we have. It's ridiculous the amount of players we have on the books still.

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I don't think many are of the opinion he should have sent put our first 11, just some of them !!

 

[Shadydan]

You’re really not getting are you.

If every manager plays the kids or the second string where do you think that comes from?

If every manager at spurs thinks the cups are a test ground and does everything to get into Europe via the league where do you think that comes from?

If Jose gets sacked days before playing a final what message does that send (not that I am his biggest fan)?

Of course Ange and the players could have done better but we will be in the same position with the next manager and the one after that just as we have been with most of our prior managers. Until we as a club make cup success a priority the cups will be treated as they are.

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No I get it, it's just complete BS and a cop out and pure and utter deflection, but fine if you want to throw shade at the board and use them as a shield for Ange that's completely up to you.

If we can praise the manager for making smart decisions like dropping Dier and Lloris from the squad, promoting Son as captain, dropping Hojbjerg etc...then why can't we point out his flaws? - unless you think that those decisions came from ENIC as well?

Your arguments just show a lack of critical thinking.

 

[Tomo]

No I get it, it's just complete BS and a cop out and pure and utter deflection, but fine if you want to throw shade at the board and use them as a shield for Ange that's completely up to you.

If we can praise the manager for making smart decisions like dropping Dier and Lloris from the squad, promoting Son as captain, dropping Hojbjerg etc...then why can't we point out his flaws? - unless you think that those decisions came from ENIC as well?

Your arguments just show a lack of critical thinking.

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Nope. You’re just not able to see the bigger picture. Ange made mistakes but if you think the next manager won’t do the same I think your very naive.

 

[Top_Spur]

Mate come on be real, do you think if that was a Champions League match he would have selected that lineup? No manager puts Dane Scarlett on in the 2nd half if they want to win that match when you have Bissouma and Destiny on the bench for example.

The guy literally said that he's trying to get more of a look of his players after the match and I actually believe him otherwise nothing else would explain the lineup, that was his intention.

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100% wouldn't have selected that side but we're talking about completely different scenarios. Ange is still very early in his time here which is why I think he was in his right to select the players he did.

As a fan it's easier for us to say 'those players have been given too many chances' which is fair enough, but when you're a coach it's different. By all accounts the players he selected probably deserved that chance to play. Now he most likely knows different. Hopefully in the future we won't see it happen again.

 

[Shadydan]

Nope. You’re just not able to see the bigger picture. Ange made mistakes but if you think the next manager won’t do the same I think your very naive.

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I don't think you're wrong by the way, the board's intention has always been top 4 over cups - that's not a secret, but there's always a balance to things like this, that doesn't mean you have to make wholesale changes like you did last night.

We know that Sanchez, Hojbjerg are most probably leaving in the next few days so what are you actually trying to see? What are you trying to prove about playing Scarlett when he will most probably go on loan?

Why can't you put Bissouma and Maddison on the pitch, are they injured? Tired? etc...

These are the kind of questions that we need to be asking - despite the board's intentions and their attitude towards the cups, what is the actual need to make so many changes?

 

[vibes_guy]

Why did Ange drop his captain in a cup tie when he has never done that before in his career?

Why did Ange rotate 9 players in a cup tie when he has never done that before in his career?

Why would Ange short-change the fans when he knows the fans are his greatest asset?

Why would Ange derail the momentum and positive energy he has created?

Why would Ange change from being a proactive in-game manager to a passive one?

Something doesn't add up, I'm sorry.

 

[CarrieFi]

I’m only going to say one thing on last night and that’s it.

Yes, it’s a bit embarrassing that we went out last night in the 2nd round, and we all expected better, but it’s done now, constant moaning about it isn’t going to get us back in the cup.

Hopefully Ange will have learnt a very important lesson last night.

If you’re not happy, email the club, write Ange a letter, whatever. Having a pop at fellow fans who all want the best for the club seems counterproductive.

 

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I’m only going to say one thing on last night and that’s it.

Yes, it’s a bit embarrassing that we went out last night in the 2nd round, and we all expected better, but it’s done now, constant moaning about it isn’t going to get us back in the cup.

Hopefully Ange will have learnt a very important lesson last night.

If you’re not happy, email the club, write Ange a letter, whatever. Having a pop at fellow fans who all want the best for the club seems counterproductive.

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That was 8 things.

 

[Tomo]

I don't think you're wrong by the way, the board's intention has always been top 4 over cups - that's not a secret, but there's always a balance to things like this, that doesn't mean you have to make wholesale changes like you did last night.

We know that Sanchez, Hojbjerg are most probably leaving in the next few days so what are you actually trying to see? What are you trying to prove about playing Scarlett when he will most probably go on loan?

Why can't you put Bissouma and Maddison on the pitch, are they injured? Tired? etc...

These are the kind of questions that we need to be asking - despite the board's intentions and their attitude towards the cups, what is the actual need to make so many changes?

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Look Ange will be judged, but he will be judged on league form. That is how we work, if he fucks up the league then he will probably in the boards eye have failed.

I have seen us for now 20 years mostly treat the league and FA Cup as a joke or a test. I would like the club to spell out to the managers to take it more seriously but the board have to look at financials and European qualification. That is our model for good and bad.

Our second string isn’t good enough sadly. At least Ange will have seen that and I will be annoyed if in the FA Cup we play a similar team. We now have only the league and FA Cup to deal with.

I still think he made too many changes, 6-7 would have been better and it’s clear some players aren’t suited to Ange style of football. I would like the board and Ange to explain how in future they will treat cups as I dont think they should be simply a test ground.

 

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Why did Ange drop his captain in a cup tie when he has never done that before in his career?

Why did Ange rotate 9 players in a cup tie when he has never done that before in his career?

Why would Ange short-change the fans when he knows the fans are his greatest asset?

Why would Ange derail the momentum and positive energy he has created?

Why would Ange change from being a proactive in-game manager to a passive one?

Something doesn't add up, I'm sorry.

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It's a conspiracy. Postecoglou is actually in the pay of Sky Sports.

 

[Spurs_in_Pune]

Well…is there another trophy you think we’re more likely to win?

Do you think we have a better chance in the League Cup or the FA Cup in any given season?

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By the wording of your comment it seemed to me that you had established the League cup as **exclusively** the trophy, Spurs were most likely to win. To this I replied that the league cup isn't very easy to win as I believe that our chances would nearly be the same as that of in the FA Cup.

However, your latest comment resolves all contradictions

 

[Honest John]

Nope. You’re just not able to see the bigger picture. Ange made mistakes but if you think the next manager won’t do the same I think your very naive.

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As was posted in another thread mate, if it's an isolated incident, then fine. Blame the manager. ..But it's not an isolated incident.
It happened under Conte. Under Mourinho. Under Poch and under all those that came and went before.

Anyone who still believes the problem is the manager clearly has their heads planted firmly between Levy's arse cheeks. It's not even funny any more.

 

[Spurs_in_Pune]

I’m only going to say one thing on last night and that’s it.

Yes, it’s a bit embarrassing that we went out last night in the 2nd round, and we all expected better, but it’s done now, constant moaning about it isn’t going to get us back in the cup.

Hopefully Ange will have learnt a very important lesson last night.

If you’re not happy, email the club, write Ange a letter, whatever. Having a pop at fellow fans who all want the best for the club seems counterproductive.

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I want to negate the negation

 

[spPadre24]

Quoting Man City success in the Carabao as something this Spurs side should be aspiring to is pretty, pretty far fetched tbh, their squad has been built to win every competition and the teams they put out in the lesser comps are scary good.

Some air being let out of the Ange bag is a good thing right now, the honeymoon is definitely not over though but after the last week of sappy songs, reality has entered the room.

 

[Get in!]

Performances and results like this will probably happen to some extent this season, especially when the second string players are picked.
Important to not get too carried away with the wins or too deflated by the losses.
This is a transitional season with a lot of work still needed on the squad, so it's way too early to judge Ange but the club is heading in a more positive direction than it has for years.

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Exactly. And do people really think he doesn't know what he's doing? I mean, come on. He knows the fans want a good cup run and he could have easily played a stronger side, what with Burnley being our next opponent.

There was a reason he played such a rotated side yesterday. Whether it was his only chance to assess the bench players before the transfer window closing, or to send a message to Levy, or something else, I don't know. But to say he was naive and doesn't "get it" seriously underestimates him. He's been managing for over 20 years and he knows the history of the club. Clueless is the one thing he's not.

 

[Spurs_in_Pune]

I don't think you're wrong by the way, the board's intention has always been top 4 over cups - that's not a secret, but there's always a balance to things like this, that doesn't mean you have to make wholesale changes like you did last night.

We know that Sanchez, Hojbjerg are most probably leaving in the next few days so what are you actually trying to see? What are you trying to prove about playing Scarlett when he will most probably go on loan?

Why can't you put Bissouma and Maddison on the pitch, are they injured? Tired? etc...

These are the kind of questions that we need to be asking - despite the board's intentions and their attitude towards the cups, what is the actual need to make so many changes?

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Firstly, let's establish a consensus on this: Should the League Cup be treated to the same prestige as a good showing in a PL season(by good showing, I mean, top 4 or europe)

 

[vibes_guy]

It's a conspiracy. Postecoglou is actually in the pay of Sky Sports.

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I knew Plettigoal was still sniffing around....

 

[Spurs_in_Pune]

Quoting Man City success in the Carabao as something this Spurs side should be aspiring to is pretty, pretty far fetched tbh, their squad has been built to win every competition and the teams they put out in the lesser comps are scary good.

Some air being let out of the Ange bag is a good thing right now, the honeymoon is definitely not over though but after the last week of sappy songs, reality has entered the room.

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But are people hoping for establishing a dynasty at this point? Hoping for a one-off trophy win, is enough for me. After all, LCFC and the scum managed to win a trophy with a unglamourous squad

 

[Rebrov_Likes]

But are people hoping for establishing a dynasty at this point? Hoping for a one-off trophy win, is enough for me. After all, LCFC and the scum managed to win a trophy with a unglamourous squad

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All clubs rotate in the cups though. It's just they have back-ups who want to contribute and fit the style better than our mish-mash of a squad put together for multiple managers and styles.