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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
skywalker68 said:
Standing by your football philosophy is one thing, but seeing your team battered game after game is unhealthy.
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Completely agree with you there. Ossie’s philosophy was commendable too. 30 years later it’s still not been seriously tried to be replicated because it’s ludicrous. As is Ange Ball.

As I said earlier, all those mid range suits and bean counters between Ange and Levy, there only to take the heat off Daniel, all need to fuck off as well as ENIC themselves and frankly Ange too. Nice guy, wrong job. Move on.

Suspect Scott Tiny Munn has too much £££ on the Melbourne visit to bullet this guy.
 
Bazali said:
Sorry but Poch wasn’t a ‘great’ manager

‘Great’ managers win things!

He didn’t

He was a good manager and we played some top class footy for 2/3 years but we didn’t win anything!
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Even if we had a ‘great’ manager let’s say Pep do you think we would win things at that period with net zero spending. We ask of any manager much more than the likes of City, Arse or Liverpool.
 
Kekerinho said:
You’ve contradicted yourself in this post. You said at least 2 years are needed to make attacking, high pressing football work, yet here you say Kompany took over at Burnley and immediately transformed the side, to win the Championship.

Of course he couldn’t make them as solid in Premier League, it’s common sense that the gap in quality is big, no football style is going to mitigate the deficiencies.
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Not really Kompany did it in the Championship, it’s not an elite league, there are no margins for error in the prem. You have to be close to perfect to operate such a high risk high reward style of football but if you can you put yourself in contention for honours.
 
John Thomas said:
Part of a managers job is to keep the players on side. Especially if the players were signed under his watch.
If there's a mutiny, he's out of his depth.
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Man management is important but how many of these players do we think Ange had input regarding signing them?

Ange is being asked to integrate players signed under Poch, Jose, Nuno and Conte by various DoF's without any clarity on who had the biggest say in their arrivals.

It's the turd polishing scenario coming back to bite us.

The miser is the problem.

Always has been; always will be.
 
Tomo said:
Even if we had a ‘great’ manager let’s say Pep do you think we would win things at that period with net zero spending. We ask of any manager much more than the likes of City, Arse or Liverpool.
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The one thing that Danny’s Gang seem to be able to avoid in their constant cycle of bollocks is not pay for quality signings, everything they touch has a shade of Mr Byrite bargain bin about it, even “big” summers bring in Maddison and Johnson, players that none of the Top 4 would go near.
 
Kosher Kid said:
Man management is important but how many of these players do we think Ange had input regarding signing them?

Ange is being asked to integrate players signed under Poch, Jose, Nuno and Conte by various DoF's without any clarity on who had the biggest say in their arrivals.

It's the turd polishing scenario coming back to bite us.

The miser is the problem.

Always has been; always will be.
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The miser is the problem, since that’s the only thing that has not changed in 25 years now. Criminal.
 
Aphex said:
The other biggest red flags is how pretty much every single player in the squad has regressed the longer Ange has been manager.

Managers are supposed to make teams better than the sum of their parts. We were all raving about Sarr, Bissouma, Udogie, VDV, Romero, Porro, Vic first 10 games etc

Now apparently we all need to get rid and we need half a new team because they are all rubbish (bar the CBs). It just can't be the case.

Emery went in to Villa and has players like Luiz, Watkins, McGin, Konsa and Diego Carlos etc playing out of their skin most weeks. He has them in a european semi final. Properly punching above their weight.

Yes our squad needs work, but are you seriously telling me our defence is so bad we can't keep clean sheets? It's not true. It's Ange's set up.

Look at his PC today, he didn't talk about how poor the goals we conceded were, and no journalist had the guts to ask him. He just doubled down that apparently we played well?! It is appalling conceding so many goals, Fulham 3, Newcastle 4, Woolwich 3, Chelsea 2, Liverpool 4 and tbh the scorelines could and should have been greater. He has the team defending like the keystone cops.

His system is fundamentally flawed, it will never work in this league I am telling you now. Coaches have sussed him (and us) out. We attack and we lose the ball, and our fullbacks are inverted up the pitch and it's 4 on 2 against our CBs. Teams are in on our goal in 2 passes constantly. It won't change, we will just do even more damage keeping him over the summer.

He's basically Bielsa at Leeds.

Comes in, plays gung ho football. Gets people suggesting he's a genius.

Then it quickly dawns on people his team lose a lot and concede a lot.
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This is spot on. Our squad isn't that bad right now, maybe even best we've had since Poch minus Kane. We have the best CB and keeper combo we've had since peak Toby and Jan. We have four CMs that six months ago would walk into any team. And we have been relatively injury free the last couple months. Our xG against has been astronomical all season. This is a problem with the manager's setup.
 
Kosher Kid said:
What sort of successful 'project' involves being humiliated on a regular basis?

Could any of us expect to be retained at what we attempt to do at work if the results of our efforts were so mediocre / average / poor / terrible after an initial period of hitting the ground running?

I cannot deny that Spurs season has turned into an absolute mystery regarding the whys and hows but;

Spurs are shite and Ange is the man calling the shots.

What has to happen is that Levy goes down with whatever happens next.

Changing the managers is not working.
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It sure ain't pretty at the moment, I can't deny that. I think the fact that we've had 2 graveyard fixtures at Stamford Bridge and Anfield has really turned the screw.

Something hasn't worked out since we got majority of our squad back, for years now there is a lack of players taking responsibility out there, wether it's not tracking runners, or not taking a man on, always doing the easy thing and passing the buck or just making genuine poor decisions on the football pitch

your right Ange is the man who's was calling the shots, he has consistently claimed responsibility. Conte, Nuno, Mourinho and Poch have also called the shots and not succeeded. We're pissing in the wind constantly changing managers.

Levy ain't going anywhere soon and if he has anything about him he should atleast back Ange Postecoglou to do the job he was bought in to do.

There has been a huge change in staff recently. I think we just need to buckle up and really break this cycle. As long as the club remains in European competition.
 
Skippa18 said:
It sure ain't pretty at the moment, I can't deny that. I think the fact that we've had 2 graveyard fixtures at Stamford Bridge and Anfield has really turned the screw.

Something hasn't worked out since we got majority of our squad back, for years now there is a lack of players taking responsibility out there, wether it's not tracking runners, or not taking a man on, always doing the easy thing and passing the buck or just making genuine poor decisions on the football pitch

your right Ange is the man who's was calling the shots, he has consistently claimed responsibility. Conte, Nuno, Mourinho and Poch have also called the shots and not succeeded. We're pissing in the wind constantly changing managers.

Levy ain't going anywhere soon and if he has anything about him he should atleast back Ange Postecoglou to do the job he was bought in to do.

There has been a huge change in staff recently. I think we just need to buckle up and really break this cycle. As long as the club remains in European competition.
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There was a period where Lo Celso came back into the team and was absolutely dynamite. He produced the best form he has ever consistently shown in a Spurs shirt. He was then suddenly cut from matchday squads and rumours of him leaving began circulating again.

I suspect the miser instructs his managers to omit players from squads when they become 'difficult' regarding contract negotiations or any other political matters.

Ange has gone from being cool and composed to looking increasingly angry and frustrated.

Spurs managers have to accept the miser's interference and still get results.
 
Tomo said:
Even if we had a ‘great’ manager let’s say Pep do you think we would win things at that period with net zero spending. We ask of any manager much more than the likes of City, Arse or Liverpool.
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That’s true we do and I agree that Poch should have been backed more but when I argue this point I get the signings of Ndombelly and Lo Celso thrown at me!
But Poch wouldn’t work with a DOF!

Then we have Johnson at £47 million which doesn’t inspire confidence in Ange’s decision making as he’s way overpriced!
 
snowkarl said:
This alone is more than 10% of the season.
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Very true, 5 games IS more than 10% of a season. The is B-grade cherry picking if I've ever seen it.

Did you know that our form at home over the last 10 games has us sitting 4th above the likes of Liverpool, Newcastle, Villa, etc.

Did you know that 10 games is more than 20% of the season ...👻

Spare me FFS! Anyone can use statistics to twist a narrative.
 
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There is more bed wetting in here than an old people’s home.

I haven’t watched the game against the bin dippers yet and I agree we were dogshite against Chelsea. But against the goons any neutral who is not an ex-Woolwich Sky pundit would say we deserved to win that. Totally outplayed them but got hit with a sucker punch (or 3).

I’m still keeping the faith. But I do hope we roll over to the oil cheats.
 
I find his press conference concerning as I do Sons post match comments....both seem to be accepting today's performance and shrugging their shoulders a bit, figuratively speaking.

I'm not for changing manager yet but things have to change and fast and certainly in mentality.

Also why wait until it's 4-0 to make subs that were blindingly obvious? We were desperate for Richy and Mad at least and at 2-0 they may have made the difference.

It's not good enough and shouldn't be accepted as such.
 
I’d be prepared to give Ange another season! At this stage we don’t have a choice. It’s pretty much been 5 years without any direction and any longer will see up dropping down the table at a rapid rate I feel. You can still see patterns of play on the field, but some confidence has been lost! Biggest issue I see (obviously set pieces are a big worry) is that Ange doesn’t know his best midfield as NONE of them are in good form! Whether it’s a lack of playing time (playing less games generally kills form and flow as you can have half a month twiddling your thumbs between games) or overthinking of the system, im not sure. We also really lack any creativity in that space as well. when madders was on form it unleashed the attack, but now we have no lock picker or anyone who can hit that killer ball that opens a team up!

For the last few games I’d like to see some changes and give the likes of lo celso or even moore a few more minutes! Dare I saw even give cuti a run at number 6 against burnley or Sheffield and left Radu and VdV be the guys at the back. Now is the time to try as we have nothing left to play for
 
I'm not a Levy supporter, but there is so much nonsense in blaming him for this man failure, the only C or D option I saw us buying was Ange himself. We bought Porro, supposedly wanted by City and no one would argue he couldn't start for any of the top six clubs I think. Romero is world class defender, world champion. Van de Ven, touted as the best signing of the season by some in here. Udogie is one of the most promising youngsters in Europe and has the potential to be one of the best LB in the world. Vicario saved our asses uncountable times and if it wasn't for him we would probably be mid-table by now. Maddison, one of the best AM in the League, we payed a lot for an experienced player that delivered a lot until the injury. Radu, we beat Bayern for him. Johnson was supposedly requested by Ange and we payed a lot of money. Who else? This signings are the plan C or D? The cheapest ones? If I blame Levy this time is for hiring Postecoglu, our squad is very good, apart from the attack options maybe and I said that before and I will repeat, give this squad to a good manager and we can easily get top 4.
 
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